debate-hope-v-SunburnedPenguin - Winner Announced

I'm gonna have to go with Jack is a hero on this one. Just from the first few episodes in season one, the Jack we see is very heroic.
And even if he has regressed since then we cannot tell what he will become by series end. and even if we could, a slide into a personal hell does not minimize what he has done for so many.

If a drunk, mean puppy-killer saves a child from a burning house he is still a hero. Like him or not. Jack is a hero too.

AngeloComet wrote:
As such, I vote for Hope. But SBP made a great job of shooting holes in Jack's 'All-American Hero' persona!

Yes, I thought that was very good too SunnyP.

Congratulations Hope, very well deserved.

Who is going to take her down?

He sinks into depression, drug use, and un-necassary facial hair

classic quote

SunnyP, I didnt think there was a chance of you winning this debate even though I thought your arguments were better presented.

The reason is this

We all still think of Jack with Season one first impressions in mind.
Jacks one of my heroes too.TBH the more effed up he gets the more I love him...probably because he is more like the complicated Sawyer.
I voted for your arguments SunnyP, but baby you were doomed

wtfsignmeup wrote:
I voted for your arguments SunnyP, but baby you were doomed

No thats a classic quote WTF.

Glad to see that a winner has been announced and that it wasnt so uneven this time! Well done Hope, the first to defend the title successfuly

Well HSM, if you count websites prior to this one, Lojozz actually defended his title successfully first.
But well done on both sides and congrats to Hope.

WTF is right about our initial impressions of Jack. He was a hero when the show began and I think he still is.

A person's identity , in the eyes of others, is defined by his actions and deeds. You can talk about being a hero all day long but until you actually do heroic things, its all just talk.

Jack has done many heroic things and you can't just disregard that becasue of his motivations or reasons.

The vote's over?

Dang

You stay away from your computer for two days, and look what happens.

thank you everyone!!