Start thinking

Remember that HSM is a fellow Brit and we have forgotten what "hot" means....we had about 20 degrees over the last couple of days which is the first sniff of summer we have seen yet

Okay, is this going to turn into a hottest place contest?
I'm going to New Orleans for a week on August 8th. it has been in the upper 90's-F (mid 30's-C) all week here where I live and I'm going to a place that is hotter and more humid...what was I thinking.
But what a city.
The food
the art
the sweat

I already have my holiday song. It'd be perfect to walk down a busy street on a hot day. San Tropez - Pink Floyd.

TheHolyStickman wrote:I already have my holiday song. It'd be perfect to walk down a busy street on a hot day. San Tropez - Pink Floyd.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=KkRcwqxLEuk

Well down under we have just passed mid winter and it is very cold in Melbourne. Today the mercury will only reach 16 and on the weekend they predict 14. Way too cold!

Stitch

PS Take me to the Canary Islands PLEASE!

16? 14? Too cold???????????

Thats a warm spring day here lol

StitchExp626 wrote:Well down under we have just passed mid winter and it is very cold in Melbourne. Today the mercury will only reach 16 and on the weekend they predict 14. Way too cold!

Stitch

PS Take me to the Canary Islands PLEASE!

Stitch,

My dad (92 yrs old) often tells the story of when during WWII, he flew to Australia for some R&R.

He (wrongly) assumed July was the summer months (like New York) and only packed his army summer wear. He said he froze his arse off! I know he had a great time

During WW II there were lots of American soldiers in Australia.

By 1944 the New Guinea campaign was finally becoming an American operation. 500,000 American servicemen were in Australia, and both governments contemplated banning American-Australian marriages. Eventually 12,000 Australian women married Americans.

Source:http://worldwar2database.com/html/australia.htm

And the total population of Australia at that time was 7 million, so 1/2 a million American troops made an indelible impact on Australia.

Say g'day to your Dad from down under!

Stitch said:

And the total population of Australia at that time was 7 million, so 1/2 a million American troops made an indelible impact on Australia.

By that you mean one of the American soldiers is your dad, don't you?

tracker wrote: He said he froze his arse off! I know he had a great time

Tracker, have you gone all international on us?...you know it is pronounced "ass" on this side of the pond!
Next thing you know you'll be confusing your friends when you tell them on a hot South Carolina day: "Boy, it's hot as hell out there...must be 35 degrees!"

MyStarbuckHatesLost wrote:

tracker wrote: He said he froze his arse off! I know he had a great time

Tracker, have you gone all international on us?...you know it is pronounced "ass" on this side of the pond!
Next thing you know you'll be confusing your friends when you tell them on a hot South Carolina day: "Boy, it's hot as hell out there...must be 35 degrees!"

MSHL... I'm learning a whole new language from my Brit and Australian brothers and sisters. I'm spelling words with "Z's" with "S's' " I started pronouncing the "H" in Herbs. After yelling at the driver who cut me off yeterday, my wife asked me what a "wanker" was? I told her it was a bad driver. She's been muttering the word ever since. I better tell her some day.

MyStarbuckHatesLost wrote:

Igs wrote:Resolved: Ben's ultimate end will be a just and virtuous end.

Question IGS,
How does one define "just and Virtuous?" Good and virtuous for whom? Need a more concrete question like "Will Ben's ultimate goal end in the death of the Losties? or something like that

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Hey Starbucks, sorry I missed your post -- this is a very delayed response. To be honest, after typing out my debate topic, I realized that I should have ditched one of the two terms "just" and "virtuous".

But on the flip side, I like keeping one of these terms (i.e. "just") because I think it adds depth to the discussion. As I pointed out in my post, not only would one be required to establish (for example) that Ben's goal is the death of the Losties but then a poster would also have to justify/attack that goal in the context of the Lost world.

The question of "just for whom" would be a question our posters would have to address. Just for the world at large, the Losties, the Others, the Hostiles, etc. I think that is interesting and would lead, perhaps, to real insights re: the show.

For me, the far more interesting debate is not simply: is Ben plotting to kill the Losties? But rather, may Ben's plot (if it involves the death of the Losties) actually be laudable (i.e. Ben saves the world by sacrificing the Losties).

I get my proposed resolve (or any debate topic I would likely propose) will tend to lack the concreteness of a debate topic such as the one you recommend, and that, for many, makes it far less appealing.

But besides the characters themselves, Lost is a show driven by themes (good vs. evil, fate vs. free fill, empiricism vs. spiritualism/mysticism). So I would like to see the debates touch upon these themes -- require debaters to deal with, at some level, the underlying questions being asked by the show.

Guys, have we lost Hope?

Hope's on holiday