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Post by Hope Thu Jun 12, 2008 9:00 pm

I am open for challenges. I probably won't be ready for a week or two but I am ready to hear everyone thoughts. If I think that there is a really good one, I may be ready even sooner. The crown is still to new for the power to go to my head, but I can assure you that that will change!! BRING IT ON!!!

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Post by AngeloComet Thu Jun 12, 2008 11:33 pm

Good on ya. Lojozz is going off on holiday in a big, crownless, debate-losing sulk. . . but Debate Club lives on!
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Post by Irocz28 Fri Jun 13, 2008 4:51 am

Hope, how does it work? Do you choose the topic and pick the side or is it up to the challenger, or is it a mutual decision?

Sorry, but I haven't been very active in the debate club or in the voting process. But I think I am going to start participating. It looks like some good healthy competition.
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Post by MyStarbuckHatesLost Fri Jun 13, 2008 5:24 am

I'm gonna send the debate ruels to Jax and let her post them for us all to read.

Here's how a challenge goes.

Challengers issue challenge to champion via a posting with two or three topics and the side of each topic they wish to take.

The champion picks the topic they want or none at all if they don't want to debate any of those topics.

When the champion finally chooses the topic they want the starting time is chhosen and the debate is on.
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Post by Irocz28 Fri Jun 13, 2008 6:42 pm

Ok, I am putting a challenge out there for the Champ. Here are some choices to pick from Hope, or dismiss them all if you don't like them.

I hope nobody minds that I stole them from the previous challenge post. There were some good, unused topics out there.

1) Is Jack a coward or a hero? Even though I may be handcuffing myself with all the Jack Haters around here I would argue that he is a hero.

2) John Locke - Murder or Suicide? I would argue suicide.

3) Claire - Dead or Alive? I would argue alive.
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Post by SunburnedPenguin Fri Jun 13, 2008 7:04 pm

I would like to issue a challenge too Smile

1/ Is Jack a hero or a coward - I would argue coward.

2/ Are the properties of the island (healing, dreams etc) spiritual or scientific in nature - I would argue spiritual

3/ Is Jacob real or a psychosomatic manifestation - I would argue manifestation

If you accept my challenge, then one of the mods will need to post the two sides of the debate to ensure fairness Smile
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Post by Hope Fri Jun 13, 2008 10:02 pm

I do like them all, but none of them are speaking to me yet. I won't let it drag out though and I will pick one within 2 weeks
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Post by MollyCocktail Fri Jun 13, 2008 10:34 pm

SunburnedPenguin wrote:

1/ Is Jack a hero or a coward - I would argue coward.

Smile

Yup Yup.

He is a big stinking coward.

I hate drunken
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Post by Irocz28 Fri Jun 13, 2008 10:36 pm

Hey SP, here is a totally random thought. Feel free to shoot it down.

Do you want to have a debate between you and I? It will be kind of like a #1 Contender debate for the chance to face Hope. Since I think Jack is a hero and you think he is a coward it wouldn't be very hard to find a topic.

Since Hope needs a couple weeks off after the big victory over Lojozz, I figured this might be a good way to pass the time.

Whadya think?
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Post by Hope Sat Jun 14, 2008 8:03 am

I just need a break because I am going on vacation, and while I will have my laptop, I didn't think it fair to be on it all the time. thats all. But I am game for whatever
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Post by SunburnedPenguin Sat Jun 14, 2008 8:06 am

Irocz thats a tempting offer, but as its up to the Champ to decide who he/she takes on, I dont think it would be fair to debate in her absence for the chance to face Hope Smile

Im happy to wait, theres no rush afterall Smile
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Post by Irocz28 Sat Jun 14, 2008 7:16 pm

Ok sounds good. Enjoy your vaca Hope.
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Post by Hope Sat Jun 14, 2008 9:49 pm

thanks. I hope every thing goes smoothly
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Post by TheHolyStickman Sun Jun 15, 2008 12:48 am

Ok this isn't an offficial title Challenge, but I'll throw a few ideas out there.

As Irocz suggested Jack, Hero or Coward
DHARMA, Did they deserve to be purged
Christian Shepherd, With Jacob or against him
Ben, Manipulating Oceanic 6 to get back on the island, or trying to get back to the island

I can't wait for the next debate, but don't feel under pressure Hope. Take your time.
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Post by MyStarbuckHatesLost Sun Jun 15, 2008 8:54 pm

Some of those are pretty cool topics HSM. I really like the one about Christian being with or against Jacob.

But I think we have to be careful with that one and some like it because there is so little supporting evidence either way on them. Debating conjecture with almost nothing to support it becomes a contest on who's theory sounds better, not who argues the facts better.

Something like the one about Jack being a coward or not works better I think because we have four years of actions to use in gathering supporting evidence.

Does this make any sense?
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Post by TheHolyStickman Sun Jun 15, 2008 9:19 pm

Yes Starbucks it does. I think the Jack Coward or Hero one will provide the best debate. I dont think a Locke suicide or murder, or did the DHARMA deserve to be purged will have enough evidence to provide a good debate. The Christian Jacob connection could prove to be a good debate later on when we get more evidence though...

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Post by Hope Mon Jun 16, 2008 7:18 am

yeah so far the Jack one is looking the best, not an acceptance because I just like the character and I guess have never looked at him in that light. Like I said though, I will pick one. I won't be stingy with the title!!
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Post by TheHolyStickman Mon Jun 16, 2008 6:06 pm

So it looks like we have a debate, Irocz Vs Hope - Is Jack a coward or hero. But Hope is just having a break first. Is that right?
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Post by SunburnedPenguin Mon Jun 16, 2008 7:05 pm

ahem.....I was the first to suggest that debate topic thank you Mad

I guess its up to Hope though Smile
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Post by solarchap Mon Jun 16, 2008 7:20 pm

SBP I think Jacob is a manifestation too, good call.


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Post by Hope Mon Jun 16, 2008 8:56 pm

wait wait, I said that I wasn't accepting anything right. let me look...not an acceptance..thats what I said. Ok, and I do think it fair that if that is the challenge that I accept, I would have to debate the first person to bring it up, thats what is fair.
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Post by Irocz28 Mon Jun 16, 2008 10:18 pm

Yes, SP was first to bring it up. She has first rights to the topic. The reason I issued the challenge first was because I didn't know if she was still interested in debating and I would hate to see such a great topic go to waste, so I threw it out there.
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Post by TheHolyStickman Mon Jun 16, 2008 11:11 pm

Really, on here you're the first one... But maybe I missed something.....
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Post by Irocz28 Mon Jun 16, 2008 11:32 pm

SP challenged Lojozz to that topic last debate, but he decided to take Hope's challenge instead.
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Post by StitchExp626 Tue Jun 17, 2008 8:15 am

Actually I would like to issue a challenge

1) Are the Official Lost Podcasts trustworthy (or do Carlton and Damon tell porkies in the podcasts to keep suspense)? I would argue that the podcasts are reliable and actually tell you more than you realise!

2) Is Hurley really insane? I would argue that he is

3) Charlotte makes characters like Ana-Lucia, Nikki and Paulo seem like the most loveable characters and absolute gems> I would agree

4) Lost Season 4 was the rebirth of the series! I would disagree.

Stitch

PS sorry about 4 topics, I know that the rules say 3. But to me 3 is an unlucky number!
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