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Post by vincentthedog on Tue Jul 08, 2008 11:41 pm

Ok first off this may not belong in Big Theories but I did not know where else to post it.
Secoundly I researched this months ago but never got to post when LT went down.
Thirdly I was just reminded of this sci-fi creation while scanning LT.
Credit to DAVE from LOST-Theories.com for reminding me and his theory.


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Hieronymus machines were the ostensible invention of Dr. Thomas Galen Hieronymus (21 November 1895 – 1988). As explained mostly by Astounding Science Fiction editor John W. Campbell in late 1950s and early 1960s editorials, Hieronymus machines were mock-ups of real machines (patented by their inventor) which allegedly worked by analogy or symbolism, being directed by psi or ESP powers.
As an example, one could create a receiver or similar device, with prisms and vacuum tubes represented by their cardboard or even schematic representations. Through the use of mental powers, such a machine would function as would its “real” equivalent. Campbell claimed that such machines actually did perform this way, but the concept was never taken seriously elsewhere or followed through on in later years.

This machine which can be made out of cardboard and wire was invented by Dr. Thomas Galen Hieronymus, Campell challenged every teenage boy out there to make one and try it on there friends.
Basicly it is a pysichic conductor that can find anything or make things happen for its
opperator. It`s still used today by interviewing scientologits to "tune" new recruts.
What does this all have to do with lost you say, besides the name Hieronymus being used
on the show(Flashes before your eyes, its on a sign that reads Charlie Hieronymus Pace.
Well I belive the Others had and were using these machines when they took Walt and
this unlocked his powers.

Just another small tid bit from reality working on the show.

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Re: Hieronymus machine

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Re: Hieronymus machine

Post by nino_1 on Tue Jul 08, 2008 11:49 pm

great finding
so charlie second name is Hieronymus?
i didnt know that


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Post by TheHolyStickman on Tue Jul 08, 2008 11:54 pm

A good find Vincent, But I would love to see you follow this up further. I really am interested i stuff like this. Very Happy

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Post by TheHolyStickman on Tue Jul 08, 2008 11:55 pm

Oh and I think your deinatley on the right path as 'Hieronymus' is not a common English name. lol!

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Post by vincentthedog on Wed Jul 09, 2008 12:34 am

Well the machine has been known to use electromagnetic pulses
much like the island.

It even has similarities to the black box as it can make anything
its user wants happen.

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Post by retroactiveman on Wed Jul 09, 2008 5:32 am

An other perspective:

Although almost too obvious to mention, Hieornymous Bosch was a Dutch artist. He painted many trippy triptychs (3 paneled paintings).

Charlie himself is a trippy person, predisposed to concern for his own moral failings. Many of the Dutch artist's pictures are concerned with this subject. The main thrust of the show Very Happy concerns the subject tied and bound to his/her perspective (feel free to read the "Speculative System" post), and thus lost and erring. Charlie is bound to his trippy perspective, and he sees the world through his moral failings. Thus, "The Garden of Earthly Delights", the title of one of Bosch's paintings, turns into an absolute hell by the third panal of the tritych, because Bosch sees the Garden equally as Hell, equally as paradise. It is because Charlie sees the world through the perspective of moral failing that allows for redemption.


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Post by SunburnedPenguin on Wed Jul 09, 2008 2:24 pm

Was that sign showing Charlies name, showing us then, that the Charlie we saw in Desmonds time jump was a mock up and not the real thing? An illusion designed to convince Desmond of his path perhaps? Or just telling us the viewer, that it was not a real event?

Interesting find!

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Post by Occam on Wed Jul 09, 2008 3:23 pm

SunburnedPenguin wrote:Was that sign showing Charlies name, showing us then, that the Charlie we saw in Desmonds time jump was a mock up and not the real thing? An illusion designed to convince Desmond of his path perhaps? Or just telling us the viewer, that it was not a real event?

Interesting find!

I told you guys! "Flashes" Desmond didn't travel nowhere!! Very Happy

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Post by SunburnedPenguin on Wed Jul 09, 2008 4:16 pm

lol Occam, I've always been on the fence with that one, never been entirely convinced that he went anywhere.......

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Post by vincentthedog on Wed Jul 09, 2008 7:47 pm


retroactiveman good call I did a little searching and found
a few of Bosch`s paintings that I think could relate to Lost.

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Post by TheHolyStickman on Wed Jul 09, 2008 8:53 pm

Agreed SunnyP, this could have been things stirred up by Des's time travelling mind. So that then switches the subject of this theory to Desmond instead of Charlie.

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Post by MyStarbuckHatesLost on Wed Jul 09, 2008 10:37 pm

Interesting.
I'm sure the name Hieronymus was not chosen at random. You don't pick a name like that without a reason, you pick a name like Bill or Fred, not Hieronymus.
And the referrence to the psychic machines seems as plausable a link to Lost as any I find for the name.

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Post by retroactiveman on Thu Jul 10, 2008 12:32 am

Vincent, the first picture that you posted, the one that looks like a snowglobe, is the exterior of the "The garden of earthly delights" triptych; the two panels cutting the snowglobe in half open outward. When you open the snowglobe, you end up with the three panels of the 4th picture from the top that you posted.

The shielded snowglobe, opens up into an island of symbolic imagery. "You all everybody" explains how symbolism works; the symbolic image is the creation of an individual who sees correspondence between the exterior world and interior individual. This representation works only because I and you through our perceptive faculties can relate to the image.

You open up the exterior to get to the interior, but even the relation of the individual to his/her own interior must go through a third relation; thus symbolic relation, thus you all everybody.

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Re: Hieronymus machine

Post by BiffyEwan on Thu Jul 10, 2008 2:30 am

woah

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