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5.7 "...By Reason of Insanity"

Post by JWLost on Fri Aug 22, 2008 2:09 am

Readers,

I'm reaching the half way point with the season! Things will start getting action packed so strap yourselves in!

Episode Synopsis: The 06 are steps away from figuring out just how to get back to the island until they hit a snag. Could Leonard be the key or do one of the 06 need to get some outside help from song long lost friends?

Link: http://www.scribd.com/doc/4945616/57-By-Reason-of-Insanity


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Re: 5.7 "...By Reason of Insanity"

Post by JWLost on Fri Aug 22, 2008 2:11 am

I really used a literary reference in this one guys, but I will leave it up to you to figure out which one... this is the first one where I actually based the backstory off of another work. In the previous episodes it seems as if my stories happen to fit the literary works mentioned (but I did use those outside works for some reference).

An Apollo Bar to whoever can figure out what literary source I used (this should be rather easy).
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Re: 5.7 "...By Reason of Insanity"

Post by katesawjack on Fri Aug 22, 2008 4:44 am

JW, I just finished 5.7, an I enjoyed it immensely. I can really see some of these things, coming to fruition. I wouldn't be surprised if the Lost writers happen to see these, that they might try and use some of your ideas.

The literary source you used ?
I will take a wild stab at it and say it is this:
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Re: 5.7 "...By Reason of Insanity"

Post by JWLost on Fri Aug 22, 2008 5:20 am

Haha, nooooo, but I did re-read part of it to see if I could do anything with it.

Think Hurley's flashes and think of the timelines of the order (the middle 3 flashes). Also, there is a hint in the text to the literary source I used... a character name perhaps?

I'm really glad you liked it and yeah, I do honestly think that my ending may prove to be a realistic thing the writers would do. We never saw Hurley's POV during that fateful flight.
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Re: 5.7 "...By Reason of Insanity"

Post by katesawjack on Fri Aug 22, 2008 6:02 am

Okay, I really want that Apollo bar ... So it must be "The Wizard of Oz",
since you didn't specify whether or not you could make more than one guess? queen
The other , I guess you know why ,I thought it was.... Nurse Cratchit/Nurse Ratched.
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Re: 5.7 "...By Reason of Insanity"

Post by JWLost on Fri Aug 22, 2008 6:19 am

Well, KatesawJack, you are still wrong. There are unlimited guesses though. You were right that the clue belongs with Nurse Cratchit though... but I intended Cratchit to be Cratchit and nothing else. I guess maybe this isn't as easy as I thought it would be... maybe it's just easy because I know what it is.... I assure you though, you have most definately read/seen it several times in your life.
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Re: 5.7 "...By Reason of Insanity"

Post by Smokette on Fri Aug 22, 2008 7:03 am

Cratchit: ghost of past, present, future....
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Re: 5.7 "...By Reason of Insanity"

Post by JWLost on Fri Aug 22, 2008 7:07 am

An Apollo Bar for Smokette!!! Too bad they aren't real, so you get nothing!!! hahaha

Yeah, I used a Christmas Carol. Christian in the first flash and (I don't want to spoil anything for someone who didn't read yet so...) you know who in the last flash are something along the lines of the Ghost of Marley who explains to Hurley what is going on (like Marley did for Scrooge).

However, they aren't ghosts... that is something important to remember and I don't want people thinking they are.
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Re: 5.7 "...By Reason of Insanity"

Post by katesawjack on Fri Aug 22, 2008 3:27 pm

Embarassed
JW ,That will lurn me durn me. I needed two smilies for that one. It was as clear as the nose on my smilies faces. Wait a minute, they don't have a nose. lol!
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Re: 5.7 "...By Reason of Insanity"

Post by tracker on Fri Aug 22, 2008 4:25 pm

JW,

Absoultely fantastic! This was my favorite by far. The diologue was well thought out and flowed well.

The only critisim I can offer was Jack referring to Sawyer's old girlfriend as "One of Sawyer's Whores" Whore sounded a little awkward to me. Other than that, this episode was a home run!


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Re: 5.7 "...By Reason of Insanity"

Post by JWLost on Fri Aug 22, 2008 6:54 pm

I questioned that line too, but you know what... given Sawyer and Jack's convo in season 1 about Sawyer and his STDs and his hate for Sawyer because he is the reason Kate was sneaking around behind Jack's back when they got off the island... I think the strong word of whore fits.

Also, thank you! I too think this is probably my best to date. Granted, I have a special place in my heart for 5.6 because of how hard and long it was to complete... that story doesn't offer much that is new except for Leonard being on the island and Jin's apparent time travel. I liked how I went about getting Jin back to 88 in order to tell Rousseaus story, but this one far surpasses in story. Thanks again!!!
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Re: 5.7 "...By Reason of Insanity"

Post by JWLost on Fri Aug 22, 2008 7:29 pm

Holy crap, I scored a double whammy here. KSJ, I'm sorry, but you were partially right with your first guess. I didn't realize until after the fact that Nurse Cratchit was also the nurse in One Who Flew... I intended it to be a hint towards the Christmas Carol, but in fact, it works for both! Go me! Haha, sooo I guess Smokette will have to share half of her Apollo bar with you. Good job!
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Re: 5.7 "...By Reason of Insanity"

Post by StitchExp626 on Sat Aug 23, 2008 2:10 am

Another great episode! Is Leonard insane, brainwashed or has been drugged continually to keep him appearing crazy?

I have always thought that Leonard was not as crazy as he appears. What is your take on Leonard's mental health?

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Re: 5.7 "...By Reason of Insanity"

Post by JWLost on Sat Aug 23, 2008 2:20 am

You know something, I think I know why Darlton tries to avoid direct answers when they are asked questions because I am not completely sure I am done with Leonards character enough to answer that with exactness....

I will say, that yes, he was genuinely insane because of the numbers, but moreso what happened to him on the island. What unlocked his insanity was being shown the numbers again with a purpose. In essence, by Hurley showing him his equation and Hurley telling Leonard that he believes him about the island... it kinda knocked Leonard out of his 19 year downward spiral.
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Re: 5.7 "...By Reason of Insanity"

Post by katesawjack on Sat Aug 23, 2008 3:52 am

JWLost wrote:An Apollo Bar for Smokette!!! Too bad they aren't real, so you get nothing!!! hahaha
Not real,Not Real, You say!!!Take a look at this. lol!
http://losties.darkbb.com/miscellaneous-chat-and-banter-f4/look-what-i-got-t556.htm
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Re: 5.7 "...By Reason of Insanity"

Post by JWLost on Sat Aug 23, 2008 4:05 am

LoL, how did I know that you, yes you KSJ, would find a picture of the Apollo Bars when they actually had them out... If i can find one from 2004-05 when they had them out in circulation, I will send it to you, I swear! However, I wouldn't eat it because that was like... 4 years ago and they probably don't taste that good.
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Re: 5.7 "...By Reason of Insanity"

Post by StitchExp626 on Sat Aug 23, 2008 4:26 am

Well believe it or not, I have a box of chocolate in my fridge that I was given in 2006. I eat one occassionally amd they still taste ok.

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Re: 5.7 "...By Reason of Insanity"

Post by JWLost on Sat Aug 23, 2008 4:43 am

Only a true fan would have a box of Apollo Bars in his fridge, lol... do any of you wonder that somtimes we are kind of freaks? Haha... I spend hours a day (i've actually taken the past 4 off) writing fan fiction, you have Apollo Bars in your fridge and I know we all log on here at least 5 times a day.

What the hell are we going to do come the end of the show?!
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Re: 5.7 "...By Reason of Insanity"

Post by StitchExp626 on Sat Aug 23, 2008 4:47 am

Well you had better have a season 7 planned!

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Re: 5.7 "...By Reason of Insanity"

Post by JWLost on Sat Aug 23, 2008 4:53 am

Ha! I don't think I could pull off a season 6! People have asked me if I am going to do a S6 and I have thought about it, but I don't think I could honestly do it and pull it off where people would like it. I can get away with a 5 because I can leave the big questions (ie what the hell is Christian doing there, what is the smoke monster... etc.) open and not have to try to answer them myself. Maybe, MAYBE, I will do a season 6 after I see what they do with S5... granted, it would screw up my storylines here, but whatever. We will see what happens.

I was thinking I could, however, do a spin-off series. What would you guys think about that?
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Re: 5.7 "...By Reason of Insanity"

Post by StitchExp626 on Sat Aug 23, 2008 4:57 am

All I can say is Yes BRING IT ON!!!!!!

Capitals intentional!

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Post by StitchExp626 on Sat Aug 23, 2008 4:58 am

I think also that we may end up preferring your season 5 to the Darlton team season 5. Hey they need to do something impressive to beat it!

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Re: 5.7 "...By Reason of Insanity"

Post by JWLost on Sat Aug 23, 2008 5:19 am

Oh man, don't compare me to them! Haha, someone actually said that they were afraid they would get used to my season 5 and they would be scared that the real thing wouldn't be as good.

All I have to say is Pa-Lease.... I doubt that. Regardless, either way you look at it, you get two stories!
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Re: 5.7 "...By Reason of Insanity"

Post by katesawjack on Sat Aug 23, 2008 6:15 am

JWLost wrote:LoL, how did I know that you, yes you KSJ, would find a picture of the Apollo Bars when they actually had them out... If i can find one from 2004-05 when they had them out in circulation, I will send it to you, I swear! However, I wouldn't eat it because that was like... 4 years ago and they probably don't taste that good.


JW, If you find one, I will gladly accept it. Maybe MollyCocktail will be willing to part with one of hers and Caged Faradays. lol!
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Re: 5.7 "...By Reason of Insanity"

Post by TheHolyStickman on Tue Sep 09, 2008 11:34 pm

Hi JW, here as always commenting on your episodes. I loved the starting scene with Hurley, although there wasn't any description (obviously) I could see it very clearly in my head.
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