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The Eye In The Cabin

Post by AngeloComet on Fri Aug 29, 2008 6:39 pm

To whom does the eye in the cabin belong? Specifically the eye that appeared in Jacobís Cabin during the episode The Beginning Of The End when Hurley peeped inside. Specifically, this eye:



I remember when the episode first aired it seemed to me that the majority of Lost fans believed the eye belonged to Locke. I wondered if that wasnít just because Locke immediately appeared with Hurley after this eye had sprung up. Hereís a close up of Lockeís eye.




To me, the Cabin Eye and Lockeís Eye arenít particularly similar. Besides, why would it make sense for Locke to one minute be in Jacobís Cabin and then the next out of it? Particularly in light of the difficulty he had locating it again, right up until the episode Cabin Fever? No. Iím ruling Locke out for this one. Next?

Purely looking at the Cabin Eye, with the brown-green colour and the brown hair surround, who that we know does it look like? Desmond springs to mind.





Not a bad likeness, to be fair. But logically, there isnít much sense for Desmond to be in the cabin is there? Especially in light of him leaving the Island at the end of Season 4! (That gives the writers two Seasons to get Des back on the Island, trapped in a cabin in the past and have it all explained. Not likely.) In other illogical notions, I also considered the Cabin Eye was Hurleyís Eye!



Again, the colour and the Ďlookí fits but, hell, that would mean Hurley was peeping into Jacobís Cabin looking at himself looking out! Thatís just nuts. Letís try and get sensible with this. Letís employ some logic. When Hurley looked in the cabin he saw Christian Shephard sitting in the rocking chair. That was Jackís dad. Well. . . in the same vein. . . could the Cabin Eye not have been Hurleyís dad? David Reyes?




Yeah. . . That one is pretty remote to say the least, logically speaking. David Reyes exists in flashforward, post-Island world. For him to be in the real world before Oceanic 815 crashed, then on the Island in the cabin, then back in the real world fixing up Hurleyís Camaro. . . Yeah. Weíll call that a long shot. And maybe thatís the trouble Ė maybe the obvious is the way of it. I mean, itís Jacobís Cabin! So why would it not be Jacob himself as the owner of the Cabin Eye looking out? We got a good close-up of Jacobís Eye during the episode The Man Behind The Curtain.




What do you think? You think they look the same? The eyebrow on one seems lower than the other for my money. Besides, would Jacob really stand to have Christian sitting in his chair whilst he was at home? Fair enough Christian sitting there whilst Jacob is away, but surely not whilst he is there!

So where does that leave us? Well, I got one last guess, and itís my favourite option so far. Particularly after the events of the episode Cabin Fever, where it was revealed that Horace Goodspeed was the man that designed and probably constructed Jacobís Cabin. It strikes me that the owner of the Cabin Eye could very well be Horace!




I mean, when Locke dreamed of him he was trapped in a loop. And that kind of fits with the idea that he has become trapped in Jacobís Cabin, that weird place of limbo on the Island. The fact that the brown hair and colour isnít a million miles away sure doesnít hurt either. The look is right and there is a connection to the cabin with a firm logic at play. For me, thatís the most solid foundation so far.

Until I know different, Iím keeping my eye on Horace!

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Re: The Eye In The Cabin

Post by nino_1 on Fri Aug 29, 2008 8:36 pm

good theory AC. what if the eye in the cabin is charlie eyes and he was just trying to scare hurley.
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Re: The Eye In The Cabin

Post by dabiatchishere on Fri Aug 29, 2008 9:06 pm

AC, I like all of the candidates you've selected, and you present good arguments for and against.

I do happen to like the Horace Goodspeed candidate myself. It makes sense that if Horace is still around 'the island' he may be 'the caretaker' of Jacob's cabin.

This is from an interview with the Producers when asked about 'the eye'. It is so like them, to keep us all guessing.

(http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20179125_4,00.html)

Hurley also saw an eyeball looking back at him. Should we be wondering about the identity of the owner of this eyeball?

LINDELOF: You should be wondering, certainly.

CUSE: One of the definitions of omniscience is to be in more than one place at a time.
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Re: The Eye In The Cabin

Post by retroactiveman on Fri Aug 29, 2008 9:11 pm

Hey, that's pretty good!

Some fairly obious connections could be made to the eye of horus.

"The EYE OF HORUS has a very specific meaning. The eye is represented as a figure with 6 parts. These 6 parts correspond to the six senses - Touch, Taste, Hearing, Thought, Sight, Smell. These are the 6 parts of the *eye*. The eye is the receptor of *input*. It has these six doors, to receive data."

"The construction of the eye follows very precise laws. The senses are ordered according to their importance. And according to how much energy must be *eaten* by the *eye* for an individual to receive a particular sensation. All of the sensory data input is *food*."

The entire eye measured 1 heqat. And each of the parts of the eye measured fractions of the heqat.
[ THE EYE OF HORUS ]



These are the parts of the EYE and their corresponding associated fraction values :-
1/641/321/16
1/81/41/2

The corresponding sense data are :-
1/64 heqat Touch
1/32 heqat Taste
1/16 heqat Hearing
1/8 heqat Thought
1/4 heqat Sight
1/2 heqat Smell


Also, in the Egyptian system there is the unit of the ro. And by definition 320 ro = 1 heqat. The symbol for the ro is the mouth, it represented one mouthful. Again associating these measures with food, or input data.
Now if we consider the ro as the smallest unit of input energy needed for the input to *register* as sense data. We note,320 = 5 x 64 and so in terms of ro we have 5 ro to register a Touch 10 ro to register a Taste 20 ro to register a Sound 40 ro to register a Thought 80 ro to register a Light 160 ro to register a Smell

To see how the drawings of the eye correspond to the various senses note:-
1. Touch 1/64 heqat or 5 ro

This part of the EYE represents planting a stick into the ground. Like planting a stalk that will take root. The Earth represents touch. Planting itself represents physical contact and touching.
2. Taste 1/32 heqat or 10 ro

This part of the EYE represents the sprouting of the wheat or grain from the planted stalk. It is the food we put into our mouth. And so represents taste. Taste is also = Touch + Shape. That is to say, the different tastes we experience come from touching different shapes. So, touch is more a fundamental sense that taste.
3. Hearing 1/16 heqat or 20 ro

This part of the EYE represents the EAR. The figure points towards the ear on the face. Also, it has the shape of a horn or musical instrument. When we Hear a sound or combination of sounds we find this to be pleasing or unplesant. The sound has a taste for us, causing a preference. Sound requires Touch + Taste and so is a combination of the lower senses.
4. Thought 1/8 heqat or 40 ro

This part of the EYE represents thought. We often use our eyebrows to express our thoughts. And this facial feature is closest to that part of the forehead we associate with thinking. We raise our eyebrows to express surprise, for example. Thought = Touch + Taste + Hearing. If you think Smile about it. Thinking is a kind of surpressed sound. The language we think in is like the *touch* of muscle prior to giving voice. And of course, we have a *taste* for different types of thoughts.
5. Sight 1/4 heqat or 80 ro

This is the pupil of the EYE. And so no more needs to be said. It represents seeing, or the sensation of light.
6. Smell 1/2 heqat or 160 ro

This part of the EYE points to the nose. It even looks like a nose. It represents the sensation of smell.
There is a lot more to this analysis, but that's the basics.

All the above from the intriguingly title site http://www.aloha.net/~hawmtn/horus.htm
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Re: The Eye In The Cabin

Post by Smokette on Sat Aug 30, 2008 5:05 am

To me, it looks like Mikhail's eye.
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Re: The Eye In The Cabin

Post by Annie79 on Sun Aug 31, 2008 7:30 pm

Angelo, well thought out theory, as usual. It makes sense to me that the eye would be Horace, since it appears he was the one that built the cabin. He seemingly is still around the island, so perhaps he is the caretaker! Still love to read your theories!
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Re: The Eye In The Cabin

Post by katesawjack on Sun Aug 31, 2008 8:06 pm

I know that it is the least probable that it is Hurleys eye, but...
I still think it is ,when you look at the bridge of the nose on the eye from the cabin, it is a very wide one, just like Hurleys


Also, when you look on Lostpedia at the close-ups of various eyes, strangely they do not have a close up of Hurleys eyes.
http://lostpedia.com/wiki/Eyes
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Re: The Eye In The Cabin

Post by dabiatchishere on Sun Aug 31, 2008 11:09 pm

Retroactiveman, Nice connection on the Eye of Horus! It is also noted that Horus watched over the 'Land of the Dead', so I feel this supports AC's theory about the eye belonging to Horace Goodspeed even more. It is one of the only salient choices to make.
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Re: The Eye In The Cabin

Post by SamiLost on Tue Sep 02, 2008 12:45 pm

I am back from my long holiday and glad to see so many good theories
here as always. I also think that the eye should belong to Horace and
Retoactive's note about the eye of Horus also supports this.



Well done Angelo yet again!
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Re: The Eye In The Cabin

Post by AngeloComet on Tue Sep 02, 2008 12:59 pm

Thanks for the input guys - Retro especially, whether your note was from research or knowledge, was particularly impressive.

Horus sounds like Horace.

That's good enough for me!
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Re: The Eye In The Cabin

Post by vincentthedog on Tue Sep 02, 2008 8:49 pm

AC great as always I see a nomination in your future.

I belive the eye although looks most like Desmond belongs to Horace. I also belive Horace is Jacob. He built the cabin for himself and his wife, why wouldn`t it belong to him?

Great add retroactiveman.

AC I get gosebumbs when I see you have posted a new theory with wonderful pictures! Keep it up!
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Re: The Eye In The Cabin

Post by SamiLost on Wed Sep 10, 2008 5:26 pm

I also belive Horace is Jacob. He built the cabin for himself and his wife, why wouldn`t it belong to him?

O maaaan!!! I never thought of that one before! I think you should write a theory about it Vincent.
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