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Re: Cindy Cindy Cindy

Post by Irocz28 on Tue Jul 22, 2008 8:49 pm

AC, i cannot buy any explanation that implys that a human being was physically taken from a group of 5-6 people without making a peep. Even the physical movement of an unconcious body is going to make noise. That does not mean that was not what happened. I can believe, however, that they wanted to make The Others so sly, sneaky, and crafty that they could in fact kidnap Cindy from her group without anyone even noticing.

In other words: In real life, there would be some kind of significant noise in kidnapping someone from their group. But, this is a TV show and the point of that was to build suspense, so maybe she was swifted away by the Others without making a sound. We probably will never really know how she was taken though.

I do agree with all your other points though. It's nice to have a good discussion again. The offseason sucks!! Haha.

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Post by Occam on Tue Jul 22, 2008 9:19 pm



I know they are not great screencaps, but that's all I can do... She looks a bit different but, if you could listen to her again, the similarity of the voice would add to my point. Isn't she Cindy, but younger?

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Re: Cindy Cindy Cindy

Post by AngeloComet on Tue Jul 22, 2008 9:24 pm

Occam, I heard about this some time back. The moment I heard, I watched the episode to check.

It's not her. (She looks Hawaiian to me!)

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Re: Cindy Cindy Cindy

Post by Occam on Tue Jul 22, 2008 9:37 pm

AngeloComet wrote:Occam, I heard about this some time back. The moment I heard, I watched the episode to check.

It's not her. (She looks Hawaiian to me!)


I watched it again just a moment ago --hence the screencaps. I know it's not a "Richard Alpert" case, meaning you would recognize her at first sight, but still...



Don't tell me they don't look like each other. On the other hand, Cindy has some screen time in "misterious scenes", and that must mean something... She even appears in "The Lost Experience", "Bad Twin", and "Lost Via Domus". A bit too much for a flying attendant, don't you think?

However, I'm not 100% sure about they being the same person.

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Re: Cindy Cindy Cindy

Post by AngeloComet on Tue Jul 22, 2008 10:34 pm

Oh, don't get me wrong. I am confident Cindy is significant. (She better be! They've made too much of her to just let her fizzle out!) I just don't think she's also the hula girl!

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Re: Cindy Cindy Cindy

Post by TheHolyStickman on Tue Jul 22, 2008 11:29 pm

Yeah, I agree with Irocz. They do have several different writers, maybe one wanted to take the others in one direction, the crafty silent-kidnapping others. And another one wante to epose them as normal people like in season three.

I guess it doesn't really matter. It's just something to talk about during the off-season. And you know that Cindy won't be a major character, No she won't AC!

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Re: Cindy Cindy Cindy

Post by AngeloComet on Wed Jul 23, 2008 7:44 am

THS! NO!

Jacob's not a MAJOR character in the sense that he has a lot of screen time. But he is significant. And in that sense, whilst Cindy will never be a major character, she ought to at least prove significant.

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Re: Cindy Cindy Cindy

Post by MyStarbuckHatesLost on Wed Jul 23, 2008 9:52 am

Not hearing CIndy during her abduction is not an issue. I've been in tropical jungles on more than one occasion. Get more than 15 feet from someone in the jungle and the ambiant noise and sound-scattering vegetation can easily block out sounds that are not so loud. Jungles are NOT quiet places.

And, refresh my memory here, was it raining when she dissapeared or was that just when Anna shot Shannon?

I'm in the "conversion after abduction" camp. Let us not forget Room 23

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Re: Cindy Cindy Cindy

Post by AngeloComet on Wed Jul 23, 2008 10:22 am

To my memory:

1. Cindy disappeared

2. The whispers started

3. The rain started

My memory ain't always great, though!

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Re: Cindy Cindy Cindy

Post by MyStarbuckHatesLost on Wed Jul 23, 2008 10:50 am

Not hearing CIndy during her abduction is not an issue. I've been in tropical jungles on more than one occasion. Get more than 15 feet from someone in the jungle and the ambiant noise and sound-scattering vegetation can easily block out sounds that are not so loud. Jungles are NOT quiet places.

And, refresh my memory here, was it raining when she dissapeared or was that just when Anna shot Shannon?

I'm in the "conversion after abduction" camp. Let us not forget Room 23

Hey, wait a minute...didn't I already post this? Damned bad memory.

Anyway, my point is
Not hearing CIndy during her abduction is not an issue. I've been in tropical jungles on more than one occasion. Get more than 15 feet from someone in the jungle and the ambiant noise and sound-scattering vegetation can easily block out sounds that are not so loud. Jungles are NOT quiet places.

And, refresh my memory here, was it raining when she dissapeared or was that just when Anna shot Shannon?

I'm in the "conversion after abduction" camp. Let us not forget Room 23

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Post by MyStarbuckHatesLost on Wed Jul 23, 2008 10:51 am

Not hearing CIndy during her abduction is not an issue. I've been in tropical jungles on more than one occasion. Get more than 15 feet from someone in the jungle and the ambiant noise and sound-scattering vegetation can easily block out sounds that are not so loud. Jungles are NOT quiet places.

And, refresh my memory here, was it raining when she dissapeared or was that just when Anna shot Shannon?

I'm in the "conversion after abduction" camp. Let us not forget Room 23

Hey, wait a minute...didn't I already post this? Damned bad memory.

Anyway, my point is
Not hearing CIndy during her abduction is not an issue. I've been in tropical jungles on more than one occasion. Get more than 15 feet from someone in the jungle and the ambiant noise and sound-scattering vegetation can easily block out sounds that are not so loud. Jungles are NOT quiet places.

And, refresh my memory here, was it raining when she dissapeared or was that just when Anna shot Shannon?

I'm in the "conversion after abduction" camp. Let us not forget Room 23

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Re: Cindy Cindy Cindy

Post by Occam on Wed Jul 23, 2008 10:55 am

MyStarbuckHatesLost wrote:Jungles are NOT quiet places.


"Lost Island" jungle is. Which is weird, in fact. I'm still waiting for a sample of the "Island's abundant and diverse wildlife" the sonic fence was protecting New Otherton from --Dr. Marvin Candle, or whichever name he chose to use, said. Of course, no *actual* wildlife means no *actual* noise...

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Post by TheHolyStickman on Wed Jul 23, 2008 8:16 pm

There would have been wildlife on the island Occam, just not inside the sonar fence. Remember the frog that annoyed Sawyer. So I think that if you combine the fact that Cindy was at the back of the group and that jungles are not quiet with the 'lost factor'* then you say that Cindy's silent capture is realistic.

AC, how can you compare Cindy to Jacob. Jacob has been shown to have supernatual powers and according to Ben is the leader of the others and therefore practically owns the island. He's been mentioned in several episodes and clearly is an important future character.

Cindy is an Austrailian flight attendant who landed on the island in a plane crash. She was then taken by the others, shown once for a few seconds and then has not been seen or mentioned since. She didn't even do anything significant in the episodes she was in. CINDY IS NOT IMPORTANT! (But she's better than Ana Lucia.) I am willing to bet she will not appear again. The writers didn't even bother to kill her off she was just chucked away in the background never to be seen again.

Now I'm going to stop before this qualifies as a 'rant'.

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Post by Occam on Thu Jul 24, 2008 7:39 am

TheHolyStickman wrote:There would have been wildlife on the island Occam, just not inside the sonar fence. Remember the frog that annoyed Sawyer.


Yes, I remember that frog. And some boars --not that many. Oh, and a "medusa" spider. Anything else? Like, birds??? You know, jungles usually are full of friggin' birds, and that's the source of most of the noise.

There's no "abundant and diverse wildlife". That's Candle's way of saying "we want you guys inside the fence, but we're not going to tell you why and anyway we don't want you to be that scared". Season 1 is all about strolls through the jungle and... where are the animals? Oh, yes, they find a couple of boars --which is weird, 'cause they doesn't seem to fit in a tropical jungle, but maybe I'm wrong-- and... a polar bear. Or two. You know, your everyday jungle pet.

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Re: Cindy Cindy Cindy

Post by AngeloComet on Thu Jul 24, 2008 7:59 am

THS - Cindy represents people taken by The Others, people who for whatever reason were qualified to be on Jacob's List.

She and the rest of them (there are about 13, in all, I believe) were gathered around the cages that time and informed they were there to watch. They were also part of the pilgrimage to The Temple. (Remember Ben's remark that The Temple was a secret only for certain people? Important people? Cindy is one of them!)

I'm not comparing Cindy to Jacob in terms of status. What I am stating is that her lack of screentime does not demean the idea that she can have an important role in Lost. As I have said, Jacob has, when you think about it, barely been in the show, and yet has managed to become a totemic figurehead.

Point is: screentime does not equal importance. In that manner, Cindy is important.

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