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Post by SunburnedPenguin on Fri Aug 08, 2008 6:43 pm

And who can forget the Y2K scare.....oh noes all the computers in the world cant cope with the date and will all go wrong!!!!!

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Post by TheHolyStickman on Fri Aug 08, 2008 7:38 pm

Is that what that was? Y2K. The computer can't cope with ALL the numbers changing in the date? Seems silly.
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Re: The World will end September 21,2012!!!

Post by solarchap on Fri Aug 08, 2008 10:25 pm

Vincenzio, your post certainly stirred up some passion!

I'm no doomsdayer-sayer, but I still like to hear all the theories, just for the sake of knowing them.

SAOY said
Sorry, I'd heard it was the winter solstice - December 21, 2012.
I always thought it was the winter solstice too, but on the plus side, that's Ben's birthday!

but MSHL said it best:

The world ends when I die. Period.
I like that! we all have our own personal doomsday eventually. Anyway whether the Mayan thing is correct or hogwash I enjoyed reading the post.
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Re: The World will end September 21,2012!!!

Post by vincentthedog on Mon Aug 11, 2008 11:27 pm

I rewatched a little of the Mayan video and still what scares me is that scientits confirm that the earth will make some sort of axis shift on that exact day something that occurs every twenty five thousand years or so. I also remember hearing that the earth has an ice age every twenty thounsand years or so.
Axis shift, Earth alligned with the Sun and the center of the Milky Way I`m think *&%#^ run!
Then at the end of the video they talk about the Mayans interpertaion how there sociaty was and obviously how different ours is today. I might be a little crazy but i think something will happen, increased bad weather planet wide and such. In the end however I think it may turn out to be an age of aquarius. The Mayans were astronomers and scientitis of time but they were heathens to be nice and the end of days that they predict could be an end of evil and needless killing. Its always darkest before dawn.
I hope no one thinks I`m crazy.
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Re: The World will end September 21,2012!!!

Post by SunburnedPenguin on Tue Aug 12, 2008 12:17 pm

I dont think your crazy atall Vincent, well maybe a tad Very Happy

There are a huge number of people across the world waiting for 2012. I dont know if you have ever heard of Indigo children (note: this is not necassarily what I believe, I just find it interesting) but since the 70's children have been born "different" to the rest of us. Indigo children supposedly operate at a higher frequency so they will have special talents such as heightened empathy, prophetic dreams, they may even be savants. They also have a natural dislike of authority and believe themselves to be better than "normal" folk. There is some controversy around the idea as one of the major signs of an indigo child is autism or ADHD. Though not every autistic child or child with ADHD is Indigo. There are parents who read this theory who have a child with behavoural and/or learning difficulties and label them as Indigo which IMHO can be dangerous. But anyway.....

The suggestion is that this is our next stage of evolution. We have no need to evolve physically as we have mastered our environment, but we do need to evolve mentally so as to stop killing eachother. This is connected to 2012 as many people believe that something global will happen that will force us to view ourselves differently, and these Indigo children will be the ones responsible for teaching us a completely new way of life.

As I say, I dont necassarily believe this, I just find it fascinating and kind of hope it is true lol

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Post by SomeArztOnYou on Tue Aug 12, 2008 12:28 pm

SunburnedPenguin wrote:I dont think your crazy atall Vincent, well maybe a tad Very Happy

There are a huge number of people across the world waiting for 2012. I dont know if you have ever heard of Indigo children (note: this is not necassarily what I believe, I just find it interesting) but since the 70's children have been born "different" to the rest of us. Indigo children supposedly operate at a higher frequency so they will have special talents such as heightened empathy, prophetic dreams, they may even be savants. They also have a natural dislike of authority and believe themselves to be better than "normal" folk. There is some controversy around the idea as one of the major signs of an indigo child is autism or ADHD. Though not every autistic child or child with ADHD is Indigo. There are parents who read this theory who have a child with behavoural and/or learning difficulties and label them as Indigo which IMHO can be dangerous. But anyway.....

The suggestion is that this is our next stage of evolution. We have no need to evolve physically as we have mastered our environment, but we do need to evolve mentally so as to stop killing eachother. This is connected to 2012 as many people believe that something global will happen that will force us to view ourselves differently, and these Indigo children will be the ones responsible for teaching us a completely new way of life.

As I say, I dont necassarily believe this, I just find it fascinating and kind of hope it is true lol

I don't necessarily believe it to be true either, but I actually did a whole double CD fictionalizing this idea - the evolution of the 'Indigo Children,' the 2012 winter solstice, the long count, the beginning of the Age of Aquarius, and all that jazz. Makes for some interesting storytelling, if nothing else.
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Post by SunburnedPenguin on Tue Aug 12, 2008 12:31 pm

I HAVE to hear that SOAY!! On the new forum I am installing a media player with a library.....great way to swap music and "other" media Wink

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Post by SomeArztOnYou on Tue Aug 12, 2008 12:41 pm

SunburnedPenguin wrote:I HAVE to hear that SOAY!! On the new forum I am installing a media player with a library.....great way to swap music and "other" media Wink

"Other" media - sounds dirty with the quotes.
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Post by SunburnedPenguin on Tue Aug 12, 2008 12:45 pm

lol no not dirty atall, just have to be careful what I say on this forum about sharing media....IYKWIM Smile

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Post by SomeArztOnYou on Tue Aug 12, 2008 12:51 pm

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Post by vincentthedog on Tue Aug 12, 2008 6:35 pm

Wow SunnyP I had never heard ot Indigo children. This can also fit into Lost. Walt an Indigo child? Heck many people on this site were born in the 70`s maybe we are the first Indigo children. I think your right about the tad crazy SP. Sounds a little like X-men.
I don`t know enough about it to say I belive but it would be very cool if it were true, unless you know they took over the world and enslaved us all.
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Post by vincentthedog on Fri Aug 29, 2008 6:55 pm

I am sorry for the length of this post but I have been looking for something that explains what I have been trying to say.

Explore the Mysterious Year 2012 and the Mayan Calendar, For A Complete View of 2012 Prophecies


2012 Prophecies? Many people are confused by the seemingly complex subject of 2012 prophecies, the mayan calendar, the New Age? Much of the cause of these 2012 prophecies is a result of the Mayan Calendar. The following article exposes the truth about 2012 prophecies and the Mayan Calendar...
-----The 2012 Prophecies-----
One question that frequently arises is that of the year 2012.
Many people will have heard that December 21 2012 is a day of great significance, mostly in the context of that date being the very end of the Mayan calendar and everything that implies.
The big question on the minds of most people is "what is the significance of this date"? What will happen to Earth? What will happen to all of us?
This is a huge subject, and one that goes way beyond the scope of this newsletter. However, it is also an extremely important subject, and one that I will be focusing on through various resources in the future. Today however we will take a look at some of the basics surrounding 2012.
What is the real significance of December 21 2012?
The reason this date has become so well-known is because it is the date that represents the "end of the Mayan calendar".
Why is this so important?
It is important because the Mayan's, like many of the ancient races of millennia ago, were in fact extremely advanced in many areas. By "advanced" we do not necessarily mean in terms of "technology", which in itself does not mean advancement at all, but as astronomers, mathematicians and builders; among other things.
Like the ancient Egyptians, to whom they were almost certainly related at some time, probably linked through the legendary continent of Atlantis, which is not actually a legend, the Mayans built the most amazing structures that defy explanation; being beyond beyond the capabilities of so called "modern man.
The Mayans were also incredible observers, mathematicians, and keepers of ancient and sacred knowledge. Using these abilities they were able to construct calendars which not only chart time, but also charted the cosmos, and forthcoming great world events.
We know that such an event, perhaps even the final event, is to take place on December 21 2012. The big question is what?
This is a question that will be addressed in the future both here and through other resources which will be announced in due course. Only be endeavouring to fully understand 2012 and putting it into the right context can we be fully prepared for this event.
In fact; there are three major issues that we need to consider and to face in the next few years. These are:
1. December 21 2012 2. Earth planetary changes 3. The agenda of terrestrial and extra-terrestrial factions
Although at first glance these might seem separate, they are in fact linked in various ways.
But today let us take a look at some of the very basics of 2012.
The ancient Mayans had many advanced abilities and most importantly ancient knowledge, probably oroginating from sources that are not immediately apparent at this time. Among these abilities were mathematics, astronomy, and prophecy based upon past world and astronomical events.
The Mayans knew that nothing ever happens by "chance" in the Universe, even though it often seems like it from a narrow human, temporal experiential perspective. The Mayans knew that everything happens in cycles of varying lengths, cycles that correspond precisely to past and future cosmic and world events.
Many of these events are the result of the one factor common to everything in the Universe without exception; Energy, which can manifest at any level from the Universal to the individual.
This is why Astrology, and I do not mean the "horoscopes" of the tabloids, I mean genuine astrology, is so significant, charting as it does the effects of a confluence of Energy being prevalent at the time of arrival on Earth, and which has so much influence over our physical life. Energy is everything!
The ancient Maya knew this, and were able to observe the effects of these confluences and events, and thus, with their seemingly amazing mathematical abilities, track future events.
The Maya had several calendars of varying lengths, the most significant of which were the "Short Count" and the "Long Count".
The Short Count is compiled by combining the "tzolkin cycle" with the solar year and the Venus cycle of 584 days, thus generating short periods of 13, 52 and 104 years.
It is however the "Long Count" cycle that is of the most interest, the end of which is also the end of all Mayan calendars.
The Long Count is derived from nested cycles of days multiplied at each level by the key Mayan number, 20, resulting in the following periods:
1 Kin which is a day 20 Uinal 360 Tun 7200 Katun 144000 Baktun
The only deviation to multiplying by 20 is the tun level where the uinal period is instead multiplied by 18 for the 360 day tun.
The Maya used this counting system to track an unbroken sequence of days from the time it was inaugurated.





Long Count dates are separated by dots. For example: 6.19.19.0.0 equals 6 baktuns, 19 katuns, 19 tuns, 0 uinals and 0 days. Each baktun has 144000 days, each katun has 7200 days, and so on.
If we add up all the values, 6.19.19.0.0 indicates a total of 1007640 days have elapsed since the Zero Date of 0.0.0.0.0. The much discussed 13-baktun cycle is completed 1872000 days, 13 baktuns, after 0.0.0.0.0. This period of time is the Mayan "Great Cycle" of the Long Count.
Each Baktun has corresponded with a major cycle on Earth, which are too extensive and complex to go into here. Suffice it to say that The 13 baktuns and 20 katuns collectively represent a perfect fractal of the 260 unit 4th dimensional timing matrix spread out as a chronotopology that we simply call "history".
Each katun represents one of 260 kin. The baktuns represent a set of morphogenetic fields, each with 20 lesser waves rising in a pitch of climax during the 13th and final baktun 1620 CE to 2012 CE.
This final baktun represents the time where, driven my the ego, materialism and money, "history" and therefore mankind has reached a saturation point, where "history" simply has nowhere else to go. And it is this event that was always charted precisely by the Mayan Long Count calendar to coincide with the end of this great cycle.
Historically it can be demonstrated that every quarter of the long cycle, approximately every 6400 years, there has been a major catastrophic Earth event for the last three such quarters. These include great floods, earthquakes, and other global events. Such events are documented as the "great flood", the destruction of Atlantis, etc.. The final quarter is December 21, 2012.
It should also be mentioned that other mathematical systems, notably the Chinese I-Ching, which was also once used as a calendrical system, also point to the year 2012, as do other lesser known systems it seems.
So these are the calendrical and mathematical considerations, but there are other considerations.
On December 21, 2012 there will be a galactic alignment of the "galactic equator", and what the Mayans refer to as "The Sacred Tree", with our star, the Sun, at the very centre of this alignment.
This in itself is no coincidence. This alignment has on our solar system astrological, astronomical and Universal considerations, and in particular the corresponding Energy effects both on Earth and indeed the entire solar system.
So that, in extremely basic terms in the interest of keeping it simple for now is the basics of the math and associated events from a historical and chronological perspective relative to the Earth space-time continuum.
The question is; what does it all really mean for us?
The honest answer is we do not really know at this stage at least in the process, although I and others are very much tracking it.
There is however too much data and historical evidence to conclude that nothing will happen. The only question is in what form will it take; the possibilities including physical, Energy or Spiritual, or indeed a combination of of all of these.
If we look at solid evidence we can observe the following factors:
Schumann Cavity Resonance: The Schumann Resonance can be likened to the "heartbeat" of Earth. Scientifically it is due to the space between the surface of the Earth and the conductive ionosphere acting as a waveguide. The limited dimensions of the earth cause this waveguide to act as a resonant cavity for electromagnetic waves in the extra low frequency ELF band.
Historically the Schumann Resonance has held steady at a frequeny of around 7.83Hz, however in recent years Schumann Resonance has increased to as high as 12Hz, the highest possible believed to be 13Hz.
Earth Magnetic Field: The magnetic field of the earth gives rise to the magnetic poles as used for navigation purposes. This magnetic effect is caused by Earth behaving like a giant elecro-magnet caused by the molten iron core and the rotation of the Earth.
The magnetic field of Earth has been progressively reducing over the years, and in fact appear to be doing so proportional to Schumann Resonance although they may not be directly connected.
Evidence of this can be seen by the fact that some sea mammals such as dolphins, porpoises an whales use the magnetic poles for navigation purposes, and there has been a large increase in these creatures going off-course and beaching themselves.
Finally, extinctions of species on Earth is 100 to 1000 times higher than the historical average, being greater than at any time in fact since the last dinosaur extinction 65 million years ago.
So what does the future hold for us?
The truth is we still do not know. Everything I have summarised today could be a series of coincidences or they could all converge to point to some major world event. We just do not know and there is certainly no value in speculation.
It would be totally inappropriate to state for example, as some are, that "the world will end in 2012". The entire scenario is far too complex to make sweeping, dogmatic statements of that nature.
Although some event seems likely, we do not know the scale of such an event, how it will manifest or how it will affect the planet, humans and all life, or how long the entire process will take.
One thing we do know beyond all doubt is that everyone will survive and be the better for the experience; the only question is in what form, physical, Astral or Spiritual.
One thing is clear however, everyone has a window of opportunity to change for the better. The next few years could be spent evaluating your life, your relationship with fellow man, animals and the planet, and then taking the appropriate steps to become as aligned and prepared as possible for any coming events.
Earth has been a major learning opportunity, an opportunity to evolve. if, and I do say if the physical planet is to come to an end, then what happens next on an individual level will depend entirely on where you are Spiritually at that precise time. Consequently there has never been a better time to place yourself in the best possible light in preparation for whatever is to come.
This is one of the major reason I wrote Our Ultimate Reality, which sets out these vital steps.
Again though, and this is most important,every single person will survive. We are all immortal, Divine Beings, aspects of the Supreme Being, and our true destiny is far greater than the temporal learning experience of this planet we call "Earth", our lives upon which are as the blink of an eye in comparison to all eternity.
Everyone, sooner or later, regardless of this Earth event we call "2012" will move on to sphere of life and reality that are glorious beyond the remotest comprehension of Earthly man, and that is the true destiny and objective of everyone on the sacred path back to The Source, The Prime Creator, some simply call "God".
Above all approach the future with joy, faith and sincere gratitude for our Earth experiences.
And always know that there is nothing to fear but fear itself; so be fearless; all will be well.
Until next week.
In Peace Light and Truth,
Adrian Cooper
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Post by Lateralus on Fri Aug 29, 2008 7:33 pm

Fun read.
But i must say, hearing the Mayans predict the world will end on 9-21-2012 beacuse thats the last day of their calander reminds me of the scene in The Holy Grail:


MAYNARD:
It reads, 'Here may be found the last words of Joseph of Arimathea. He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the Holy Grail in the Castle of aaaaaagggh'.
ARTHUR:
What?
MAYNARD:
'...The Castle of aaaaaagggh'.
BEDEVERE:
What is that?
MAYNARD:
He must have died while carving it.

Maybe the Mayan dude who was making that calander went home at lunch that day and didn't come back and thats why the calander ends there.

And the world ending on that day would only matter to the heathens Jesus left behind on earth after the rapture thats gonna take place next week.

Naw, but seriously. That was fun to read. Very Happy

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