Cindy Cindy Cindy

This is not an original idea, and it is probably been thrown around quite a bit. But, considering the very bare amount of offseason theories, I thought it might give us something to talk about.

Does anyone think that the flight attendant Cindy has been "in" on this whole thing? Maybe she was working with Ben the whole time to bring Jack to the island. She does serve Jack the dreaded orange juice on the plane. This could be the same orange juice that Julliette took to prepare her for her "bumpy" ride to the island.

Also, her disappearance from Ana Lucia's group was a little too quiet for me to believe there was any kind of a struggle. You had Ana Lucia, Eko, Michael, Jin, Libby, and Bernard walking with her and nobody heard a peep from her as she was violently abducted by the others. To me, it would be easier to buy the fact that she just walked off on her own will back to her real group, The Others.

And then you have her relaxed and calm demeanor outside of Jack's cage. When Jack asked "what are you doing here - with them", she responds with "It's not that simple". Very suspicious. I don't know. I think it is something to consider.

Yes when she disapeered (spelling lol ) it was quite odd.

Cool idea. There is some good potential for that next season. We get to see where they took the children hopefully, and didn't Cindy say she was taking care of the children?

Here is her Lsotpedia link. There is lots of stuff there about her i had completly forgot.
http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Cindy
I think your on to something here.

Yeah I have thought about how her disappearance was very quiet. She would have least let out a scream if she had been caught. Isn't that what they usually do when they scream but by the time they turn around its too late.

Also Cindy hid the identity of the other in the camp. She said that she had not seen Nathan on the plane and so Goodwin was in the clear for a while.

Thanks. Yeah that Lostpedia link is actually where i got most of my information.

Wow all three of us just posted in really quick succession.

Interesting point about the children Lateralus, but I have to think those little buggers might be grown up by now (aka - The Walt Effect). I am not sure if they can use them in any new episodes due to their growth.

Two points.

One Straight from Lostpedia - Cindy's last name is Chandler. A chandler is a person who makes and sells [color:a7bf=#00CC33 ! important][color:a7bf=#00CC33 ! important]candles. Dr. Marvin Candle/Mark Wickmund/Edgar Halliwax appears in the DHARMA orientation films/videos.

And Two if you remember the first debate on this site between MSHL and Lojozz. It was if the flight was planned or not. We etablished pretty quickly that no human could have planned this and that it was down to something supernatural or destiny. So it seems to me unlikley that Cindy knew about the crash before it happened, and that if she did that she put her life at risk.

What could have happened which seems to me more likely is that Cindy could have been aproached by the others after the crash possibley after the first kidnapping so that she would already be scared and offer her a safe placeto stay.

Although Cindy did seem like she cared about the kids so she might not want to go with the people who kidnapped them.

Although Cindy might want to go with the others to protect them and keep them from being scared.

Although if Cindy was going to go with the others she would have just done when she was aproached by them in the scenario above.

OR

It could just be one of those many plot lines that wasn't chased up and will be left.

Good points HSM. There is something about that whole orange juice thing that seems suspicious. Maybe it is that non-existent Pilot clue we are all looking for. HaHa.

Juliette drinks OJ, passes out, and arrives on the island with no memory of how she got there. Jack drinks OJ, blacks out during the crash, and wakes in the middle of the island with no memory of how he got there.

Yeah that is strange, we didn't see Jack get knocked out it seems like he just passed out due to shock. So the orange juice thing could be an option.

Also Jack said he had a bit of pilot training so I would think that he was very comfortable in the air and wouldn't pass out from shock.

The plane crash being delieberate is fundamental to judging Cindy. And whilst I have argued about reasons why the plane crash could have been intended, I think I still fundamentally come down on the accidental coincidence of the plane crossing over where the Island was at the precise point in time that Desmond didn't push the button.

If there was 'intention', it was not human intention. We can perhaps suggest that the Island had the power to ensure Oceanic 815 crashed and the people that needed to survive made it - the same way the Island prevents anyone who isn't ready to die from killing themselves (a la Michael).

So. Plane crash not planned but destined to crash, and the survivors destined to be there. So. Where does that put Cindy? As destined survivor? Someone on Jacob's list?

And maybe once she had been captured she was informed of her role in a convincing way. It won't be the first time someone has been convinced to alter their demeanour. We've seen Claire appear to go along with Christian and abandon her baby, which is way more drastic than Cindy choosing to follow The Others.

So that's what I think. She crashed, she survived, she got captured and then got converted. In that order.

AC, as I was reading your post I was going to challenge the converted thing by saying. If she was converted then she would have had to meet them at least once where she could have gone with them then instead of pulling off a risky capture. But I realise now that Cindy could have been used as a spy cancelling out the risk. Gathering information just like Goodwin. (Who Ben was not expecting to come back so there would be no info from him.)

THS - not sure I follow your meaning here.

I am stating that I believe Cindy was coverted AFTER she was kidnapped. I really believe she was silently, swiftly captured by The Others against her will, and up until this moment she had no more knowledge or awareness of The Others than anyone else in the tail section.

I am not suggesting she was a part of The Others before she was taken. I am not suggesting she was in the tail section group as a spy, working for The Others undercover.

(I realise there are discrepancies to her actions and behaviour whilst she was with the tail section - but I can just about argue past these to make my perspective work out. I might be wrong, but the logical odds of the idea that she survived the plane crash to be a spy for The Others are more far out than my interpretation.)

I'm not saying she was a spy beforehand. I mean she was approached by the others after the crash and then for some reason they didn't take her to the barracks then they waited for a while until they took her from the group.

If she wasn't used as a spy then what would be the point of her capture. Just another nameless other.

How could the others capture Cindy so that she didn't let out a scream even if it was muffled. Unless, the other dont have access to... chloroform do they?

I see - though I don't agree. I think Goodwin got all the information he needed, and it was only his persistence in Ana Lucia that made him hang around. We have to assume that the only reason Chandler wasn't grabbed earlier was because The Others just could not get to her because of Ana and Eko moving and protecting the group.

As for snatching Cindy silently. . .

A hand clapped over the mouth.

A sharp blow to the head.

Fast-acting tranquiliser dart.

Or, indeed, chloroform (a substance they could easilt obtain - just send Tom to the regular world for some!).