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A Complete Theory – Genealogy and Reincarnation
I’d just like to warn everyone that this is a VERY LONG
theory, almost like a mini novel. It is
a compellation of things that you all may have heard before, and also some new
ideas or just plain observations. It is
similar to my old bioengineering theory (from LT.com) in many ways, but there
are a lot of things that I have added to or changed completely. There are also some possible spoilers in here,
but mostly towards the end. I work from
a lot of assumptions, but I also read spoilers and there is no doubt that it
shows in my theory. Anyways, if you have
the time to read this I’m sure you’ll find it to be enjoyable, and if you don’t
have the time, I fully understand. If
you have been trying to avoid spoilers and want the show to be a complete
surprise for you, well, you should probably not read this.
Since the beginning of time, as the world formed and the
universe expanded, many great things have come together to produce life here on
earth. With a magnetic force field that
protects us from the nuclear winds of the universe and an atmosphere that works
as a fine tuned machine to support life, water, air and land. Even the precise distance from the sun that
allows life to exist without freezing or burning from extreme
temperatures. Since the formation of our
planet there has existed an island, a special island that is the heart of earth
and helps to drive the machine. The
machine is precise and complicated, it is driven by the actions of many
physical things, as well as intervention of the divine.
This island has been the home for many people and cultures
throughout the ages. Its location on
earth is mysterious in itself. The
island possesses matter from several different universes all at once. This is the only place that contains light
matter and dark matter, right handed and left handed matter, living and dead
souls, angels and demons all at the same time in the same place. They are all here, now, and they are all the
same. This island is part of an
equilibrium system that helps drive the motion of earth and the universe. This place, much like everywhere else,
contains a great deal of duality in its existence. For every light, there is a dark; for every
positive, there is a negative; for every action, there is a reaction.
As cultures have existed throughout history, there have been
many ancient cultures that have found themselves on this island as well. The living souls that exist on this island
have reached it through one of the many portals on earth. These portals are known as Vile Vortices and
there are 12 locations on earth, evenly distributed, where they can be
accessed. Two of these vortices are well
know for their mystery, the Devils triangle and the Bermuda
triangle. Two other vile vortices
locations are the north and south poles.
Much like the rotation of the earth, the location of the island, as well
as the access point to it, rotates in a cycle.
If one is located at a particular vortex at a particular time, they will
be sucked through a wormhole (personified as Maxwell’s demon) and they will end
up on this island. Most of the living
souls that have found their way on the island have never found their way out, for
there is only one bearing that one can follow in order to get back. For the dead souls on the island, it is even
harder to get back, but if they are special, they can use the island as a
conduit to communicate to the living.
This island shares many properties with the rest of the
earth, but every property acts slightly differently. As we experience magnetic fields on earth,
the island experiences magnetic fields as well, but with different properties
and higher concentration. Earth
experiences gravitational forces and ultraviolet light, and the island
experiences the same properties, but in different ways as well. There are also several unexplainable energies
that we see on earth. Some people use
religions and spirituality to explain strange coincidences that they see, but
interpretation is in the eye of the beholder.
The human body feels energies that we cannot explain; urges and feelings
like lust, love, remorse and purpose.
These special and unexplainable, intangible energies are also found on
the island in higher concentration to what is felt on earth. There is a spirit that guards the island and
works with it as a hand of judgment, this spirit is known as Cerberus and is
formed of three clouds of black smoke.
Cerberus has a master, who is also a guardian of the island
and an angel of the underworld; his name is Abaddon. Both of these spirits can project themselves
as physical beings to speak living people in our world and on the island. These spirits will look into the soul of an
individual that they encounter and they judge them on their ability to redeem
themselves. If a soul is working toward
betterment, the spirits will not attack.
If a soul lives in fear or cannot find redemption, they will be killed.
The original Abaddon lived thousands of years before our
time, but his physical tomb has since expired.
When a meteor hit the island thousands of years ago, it caused a great
force of energy that destroyed the inhabitants and spiritual leaders, as well
as statues that honor them. Abaddon is
reincarnated as Walt Lloyd. Young Walt
does not know of the details of his former life, but he does know he is
special. While growing up and living
with his grandmother, young Walt was angry and confused about who he was, until
he took a long walk in Australia,
known as a Walkabout. On his walkabout,
Walt learns a great deal about himself as he is tested by extreme conditions,
physically and emotionally. At this
time, the Island communicated to Walt, letting
him know who he was. Walt learned what
he was destined to do, and he found his way back to the island, assuming is
true name…Abaddon. From the Island, he learns that he must go back in time, and
influence the outcome of what we are seeing unfold today.
As people have found themselves on the island throughout
history, they have been able to live in harmony with it. A simple life on the island is one that is
harmonious with it. If any of the
islands inhabitants wanted or needed anything, the island would provide, as
long as they didn’t seek out new technologies or go against the Island’s will. The
natives of the island have had a communion with it throughout the ages. They have built temples and statues and even
made sacrifices for the island.
Everything was fine with the island and the world and in 1882, when a
slave ship called the Black Rock found itself shipwrecked on it. As the Black Rock was sailing from Africa to America, the Island
was moved right under it, causing the ship to be located inland.
The captain of the ship, Magnus Hanso, discovered evidence
of many cultures on this island and also found that it had many strange
properties. As Magnus lived on the
island, he created a journal of his findings with hints about its strange properties
and even a small map. Magnus tried to
find his way out of the island so he could be with his son, Tovart Hanso, whom
he had left behind as he sailed on his voyage.
Magnus was never able to get off of the island, but his journal
did. His journal was lost at sea when
Magnus was trying to find a way out, and it managed to wash out through a
particular bearing, and made it back to our world in Tovart’s time. The journal was found and given to Magnus’
son, Tovart.
Several years passed and the island managed to live in
harmony with several of the inhabitants who found their way to it. One of the famous people who made it to the
island was one Amelia Earhart on her attempt to fly around the world. Amelia lived the island and lived in harmony
with it, along with the other few natives who have found their way to the
island over the years. All of the
islands inhabitants had to get to the island through a Vile Vortex access
point, and all cultures on the island are short lived.
Though men are
10 times more fertile on the island, woman cannot conceive and give birth on
the island without dying. This is why no
particular culture could grow and flourish on the island, because none of them
could reproduce. One special thing about
the island is that it is the location of lost dead souls. When people die, they exist on the island as
a particular type of matter. Dead souls
are known as “dark” souls and live souls are known as “light” souls. In order for a light soul to be seen by a
dark soul, or visa versa, it must live a simple life in its own universe so it
can be favored by the island and be granted special powers. Without special powers, these souls could
only communicate to their anti-matter in the form of whispers. Since this island is the location of the
underworld, it affects the living human body to a degree where it can reject
any decease or ailment for those that are favored; however, this is so extreme
that it causes the human body to also reject life that is growing inside of it,
much like as if a developing fetus were a cancer.
theory, almost like a mini novel. It is
a compellation of things that you all may have heard before, and also some new
ideas or just plain observations. It is
similar to my old bioengineering theory (from LT.com) in many ways, but there
are a lot of things that I have added to or changed completely. There are also some possible spoilers in here,
but mostly towards the end. I work from
a lot of assumptions, but I also read spoilers and there is no doubt that it
shows in my theory. Anyways, if you have
the time to read this I’m sure you’ll find it to be enjoyable, and if you don’t
have the time, I fully understand. If
you have been trying to avoid spoilers and want the show to be a complete
surprise for you, well, you should probably not read this.
Since the beginning of time, as the world formed and the
universe expanded, many great things have come together to produce life here on
earth. With a magnetic force field that
protects us from the nuclear winds of the universe and an atmosphere that works
as a fine tuned machine to support life, water, air and land. Even the precise distance from the sun that
allows life to exist without freezing or burning from extreme
temperatures. Since the formation of our
planet there has existed an island, a special island that is the heart of earth
and helps to drive the machine. The
machine is precise and complicated, it is driven by the actions of many
physical things, as well as intervention of the divine.
This island has been the home for many people and cultures
throughout the ages. Its location on
earth is mysterious in itself. The
island possesses matter from several different universes all at once. This is the only place that contains light
matter and dark matter, right handed and left handed matter, living and dead
souls, angels and demons all at the same time in the same place. They are all here, now, and they are all the
same. This island is part of an
equilibrium system that helps drive the motion of earth and the universe. This place, much like everywhere else,
contains a great deal of duality in its existence. For every light, there is a dark; for every
positive, there is a negative; for every action, there is a reaction.
As cultures have existed throughout history, there have been
many ancient cultures that have found themselves on this island as well. The living souls that exist on this island
have reached it through one of the many portals on earth. These portals are known as Vile Vortices and
there are 12 locations on earth, evenly distributed, where they can be
accessed. Two of these vortices are well
know for their mystery, the Devils triangle and the Bermuda
triangle. Two other vile vortices
locations are the north and south poles.
Much like the rotation of the earth, the location of the island, as well
as the access point to it, rotates in a cycle.
If one is located at a particular vortex at a particular time, they will
be sucked through a wormhole (personified as Maxwell’s demon) and they will end
up on this island. Most of the living
souls that have found their way on the island have never found their way out, for
there is only one bearing that one can follow in order to get back. For the dead souls on the island, it is even
harder to get back, but if they are special, they can use the island as a
conduit to communicate to the living.
This island shares many properties with the rest of the
earth, but every property acts slightly differently. As we experience magnetic fields on earth,
the island experiences magnetic fields as well, but with different properties
and higher concentration. Earth
experiences gravitational forces and ultraviolet light, and the island
experiences the same properties, but in different ways as well. There are also several unexplainable energies
that we see on earth. Some people use
religions and spirituality to explain strange coincidences that they see, but
interpretation is in the eye of the beholder.
The human body feels energies that we cannot explain; urges and feelings
like lust, love, remorse and purpose.
These special and unexplainable, intangible energies are also found on
the island in higher concentration to what is felt on earth. There is a spirit that guards the island and
works with it as a hand of judgment, this spirit is known as Cerberus and is
formed of three clouds of black smoke.
Cerberus has a master, who is also a guardian of the island
and an angel of the underworld; his name is Abaddon. Both of these spirits can project themselves
as physical beings to speak living people in our world and on the island. These spirits will look into the soul of an
individual that they encounter and they judge them on their ability to redeem
themselves. If a soul is working toward
betterment, the spirits will not attack.
If a soul lives in fear or cannot find redemption, they will be killed.
The original Abaddon lived thousands of years before our
time, but his physical tomb has since expired.
When a meteor hit the island thousands of years ago, it caused a great
force of energy that destroyed the inhabitants and spiritual leaders, as well
as statues that honor them. Abaddon is
reincarnated as Walt Lloyd. Young Walt
does not know of the details of his former life, but he does know he is
special. While growing up and living
with his grandmother, young Walt was angry and confused about who he was, until
he took a long walk in Australia,
known as a Walkabout. On his walkabout,
Walt learns a great deal about himself as he is tested by extreme conditions,
physically and emotionally. At this
time, the Island communicated to Walt, letting
him know who he was. Walt learned what
he was destined to do, and he found his way back to the island, assuming is
true name…Abaddon. From the Island, he learns that he must go back in time, and
influence the outcome of what we are seeing unfold today.
As people have found themselves on the island throughout
history, they have been able to live in harmony with it. A simple life on the island is one that is
harmonious with it. If any of the
islands inhabitants wanted or needed anything, the island would provide, as
long as they didn’t seek out new technologies or go against the Island’s will. The
natives of the island have had a communion with it throughout the ages. They have built temples and statues and even
made sacrifices for the island.
Everything was fine with the island and the world and in 1882, when a
slave ship called the Black Rock found itself shipwrecked on it. As the Black Rock was sailing from Africa to America, the Island
was moved right under it, causing the ship to be located inland.
The captain of the ship, Magnus Hanso, discovered evidence
of many cultures on this island and also found that it had many strange
properties. As Magnus lived on the
island, he created a journal of his findings with hints about its strange properties
and even a small map. Magnus tried to
find his way out of the island so he could be with his son, Tovart Hanso, whom
he had left behind as he sailed on his voyage.
Magnus was never able to get off of the island, but his journal
did. His journal was lost at sea when
Magnus was trying to find a way out, and it managed to wash out through a
particular bearing, and made it back to our world in Tovart’s time. The journal was found and given to Magnus’
son, Tovart.
Several years passed and the island managed to live in
harmony with several of the inhabitants who found their way to it. One of the famous people who made it to the
island was one Amelia Earhart on her attempt to fly around the world. Amelia lived the island and lived in harmony
with it, along with the other few natives who have found their way to the
island over the years. All of the
islands inhabitants had to get to the island through a Vile Vortex access
point, and all cultures on the island are short lived.
Though men are
10 times more fertile on the island, woman cannot conceive and give birth on
the island without dying. This is why no
particular culture could grow and flourish on the island, because none of them
could reproduce. One special thing about
the island is that it is the location of lost dead souls. When people die, they exist on the island as
a particular type of matter. Dead souls
are known as “dark” souls and live souls are known as “light” souls. In order for a light soul to be seen by a
dark soul, or visa versa, it must live a simple life in its own universe so it
can be favored by the island and be granted special powers. Without special powers, these souls could
only communicate to their anti-matter in the form of whispers. Since this island is the location of the
underworld, it affects the living human body to a degree where it can reject
any decease or ailment for those that are favored; however, this is so extreme
that it causes the human body to also reject life that is growing inside of it,
much like as if a developing fetus were a cancer.
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Re: A Complete Theory – Genealogy and Reincarnation
As time went on, the journal of Magnus Hanso was passed down
another generation from Tovart to Alvar Hanso, who was a weapons dealer in the
Second World War. During his service
with the armed forces, Alvar heard of a government funded program that paid the
greatest scientist and mathematicians to help predict the fall of
humanity. During this time there were
also many government sponsored studies that involved researching several
paranormal activities such as extra sensory perception, telekinesis and remote
viewing. This research was funded to
compete with Russia and China, who were
also funding research in such fields. Though
the participants of such studies believed in these paranormal activities to be
real, the funding was ceased shortly. Several
members of the government still believe that these programs should not have
been shut down. The studies of the
mathematicians have yielded an inconvenient truth; A mathematician by the name
of Enzo Valenzetti computed what is known as the Valenzetti equation, which
predicts when humanity will extinguish itself, through any means possible.
Alvar Hanso learned of the Valenzetti equation, and decided
at that moment to do anything he could do change the core factors of it and
save humanity as we know it. The 6 core
factors of the Valenzetti equation can be described with the numbers: 4 8 15 16
23 and 42. These numbers not only
represent the path of humanity and its destruction, but they also possess
special powers of their own. These
numbers and their powers should not be used for profit, or the one who misuses
them will be cursed with bad luck until they can make their life right with the
island and learn to respect its powers.
In an effort to change the core factors of the Valenzetti
equation, Alvar Hanso recruited some very gifted and passionate scientists
named Gerald and Karen DeGroot to help him assembled a team of scientists that
will work toward altering the core values of the Valenzetti equation and saving
humanity. In the journal passed down to
him from his father, Alvar remembered a special island that was located in a
special place with special properties where he and his scientist could conduct
their experiments. So in early 1970s
Alvar and the DeGroots assembled their team of scientists and created the
DHARMA initiative on the special island.
DHARMA was named as an acronym for Department of Heuristics And Research
on Material Applications, and is also a concept in Hinduism that that values
“the way of higher truths” and the “fundamental principles of justice and
righteousness.” The name also has some
hidden meaning when considering the concepts of dark matter, dhar-ma = dark
matter.
The Dharma Initiative (or DI) consisted of many talented
scientists in several different fields from places all over the world. Alvar provided funding to the DI to allow
them to build anything that they needed.
The Hanso foundation contracted work to Widmore Industries and Paik
Industries to have special hatches, radio towers and sonar fences built around
the island. The heads of these
industries, Charles Widmore and Mr. Paik allowed their employees to come to
work on the island and do their contracting work. Both tycoons heard word from their employees
that there had been several strange occurrences on the island, like nothing
ever seen before. Both men sent spies to
the island to act as contractors and confirm the unusual properties of the it. The spies for each men reported several
strange properties and now both men have become determined to find the island so
they could utilize its powers for profit, but neither knew how to find it. The only people who knew exactly how to get
to the island was Alvar Hanso and a few of his selected employees.
Through the 1970s, the DI lived on the island, though not
harmoniously. Members of the DI treated
the island like it was just another piece of land. They drilled holes in it, erected towers on
it and forced the natives to live in a separate area, held off by the sonar
fences. The scientists carelessly
drilled into the island and at one point drilled too far. There was an incident in early 1980s in which
the scientists decided to dig at a point where the island’s electromagnetic anomalies
were great. As they dug further, the
anomalies became stronger. They chased
this rabbit too far down the hole. Once
past a certain point, the electromagnetic waves got out of control and all
metal and electronic equipment went haywire.
As large pieces of equipment were sucked into the hole and the ground
trembled, the folks from the DI scrambled to plug the hole with anything that
was available. They filled it with
trucks, generators, tools and cement until the chaos subsided.
As a result of this incident, Dharma took notice in a built
up charge that would get very unstable after 108 minutes. This electromagnetic force needed to be discharged
every 108 minutes, or the ground would begin to tremble and the force would
become unstable. The DI decided to use
their currently erecting station, The Swan, to discharge this accruing EM force
to a very large capacitor, made up of several metallic plates buried on the
island and the land between them as a dielectric. This capacitor could be used to fix the built-up
charge that was created by the incident by turning the failsafe key and discharging
this energy. It would only work to fix
the problem if the capacitor has been charged up for enough years to discharge
a force large enough to fix the problem created by the incident. The Casimir effect speaks of a force between
two plates that are very close together, as a result of the particles that make
up the plates. The island acts as a catalyst for this force and allows it
accrue between the two metal plates over a greater distance. As the harmonic
oscillations of the plates cause a force to grow exponentially, the magnitude
of the oscillations get to a point of instability after a period of 108
minutes.
If anyone were to turn the failsafe key and release the
energy in the capacitor, they would no doubt experience some side effects. This misuse of the island made it and its
native inhabitants very unhappy, because the island is special and it is more
than a piece of land, it has a soul of its own.
The DI has now physically hurt the island, so it’s natives have set out
to eliminate them.
On one fateful day in Portland,
early 1970s, mathematician and scientist Horace Goodspeed and his wife Olivia
were driving along a coastal highway in Portland
and came across and man named Roger Linus holding his bloody wife Emily, who
had just given birth to their son, Benjamin.
Emily died after the premature birth of Benjamin and Horace and Olivia were
there. With Ben being a motherless
premature child of a woman named Emily, he fit the schema that had been
predicted as the reincarnation of the islands leader. Horace lured Roger and Ben to the island with
the premise that he had found work for Roger, when the real intention was to
get Ben there as he was guided by a man named Richard Alpert, one of the
island’s natives. Horace met Richard
Alpert on one of his walks around the island, while trying to get a break from
the DI. Horace, being a central and
spiritual person, knew that Richard was right.
Richard was told what to look for in a child that will be the
reincarnation of the island’s leader in a dream when he was spoken to by Jacob,
the spirit of the island; Richard told Horace what to look for from Jacob’s
prediction. Ben was also being taught
and observed by Olivia Goodspeed as he grew up.
As the DI and its scientists lived and studied on the
island, they became more and more aware of its mystical and special
properties. With the awareness of these
powers and the fact that the scientists have the ailment of being human, they
became greedy, and strayed away from their original intentions. Their focuses on studying these properties
for the sake of saving humanity began to dwindle as the focus to harness these
special powers for profit began to grow.
The members of the Dharma initiative began to move away from the ideals
of Alvar Hanso and were bought out by Charles Widmore one by one.
The first and most important man to sell out to Widmore was
Dr. Thomas Werner Middlewerk, chief of technology for the Hanso
foundation. Middlewerk continued to work
for the Hanso foundation, but he had his own set of scientists doing their own
work on the island. As instructed by
Charles Widmore, Middlewerk and his scientist only studied the powers on the
island that could be used for profit.
They studied parapsychology, extra-sensory perception, remote viewing
and the islands special healing properties.
For a man like Charles Widmore, harnessing these abilities will give him
a level of power that his money can not provide by itself. Widmore wants absolute power.
another generation from Tovart to Alvar Hanso, who was a weapons dealer in the
Second World War. During his service
with the armed forces, Alvar heard of a government funded program that paid the
greatest scientist and mathematicians to help predict the fall of
humanity. During this time there were
also many government sponsored studies that involved researching several
paranormal activities such as extra sensory perception, telekinesis and remote
viewing. This research was funded to
compete with Russia and China, who were
also funding research in such fields. Though
the participants of such studies believed in these paranormal activities to be
real, the funding was ceased shortly. Several
members of the government still believe that these programs should not have
been shut down. The studies of the
mathematicians have yielded an inconvenient truth; A mathematician by the name
of Enzo Valenzetti computed what is known as the Valenzetti equation, which
predicts when humanity will extinguish itself, through any means possible.
Alvar Hanso learned of the Valenzetti equation, and decided
at that moment to do anything he could do change the core factors of it and
save humanity as we know it. The 6 core
factors of the Valenzetti equation can be described with the numbers: 4 8 15 16
23 and 42. These numbers not only
represent the path of humanity and its destruction, but they also possess
special powers of their own. These
numbers and their powers should not be used for profit, or the one who misuses
them will be cursed with bad luck until they can make their life right with the
island and learn to respect its powers.
In an effort to change the core factors of the Valenzetti
equation, Alvar Hanso recruited some very gifted and passionate scientists
named Gerald and Karen DeGroot to help him assembled a team of scientists that
will work toward altering the core values of the Valenzetti equation and saving
humanity. In the journal passed down to
him from his father, Alvar remembered a special island that was located in a
special place with special properties where he and his scientist could conduct
their experiments. So in early 1970s
Alvar and the DeGroots assembled their team of scientists and created the
DHARMA initiative on the special island.
DHARMA was named as an acronym for Department of Heuristics And Research
on Material Applications, and is also a concept in Hinduism that that values
“the way of higher truths” and the “fundamental principles of justice and
righteousness.” The name also has some
hidden meaning when considering the concepts of dark matter, dhar-ma = dark
matter.
The Dharma Initiative (or DI) consisted of many talented
scientists in several different fields from places all over the world. Alvar provided funding to the DI to allow
them to build anything that they needed.
The Hanso foundation contracted work to Widmore Industries and Paik
Industries to have special hatches, radio towers and sonar fences built around
the island. The heads of these
industries, Charles Widmore and Mr. Paik allowed their employees to come to
work on the island and do their contracting work. Both tycoons heard word from their employees
that there had been several strange occurrences on the island, like nothing
ever seen before. Both men sent spies to
the island to act as contractors and confirm the unusual properties of the it. The spies for each men reported several
strange properties and now both men have become determined to find the island so
they could utilize its powers for profit, but neither knew how to find it. The only people who knew exactly how to get
to the island was Alvar Hanso and a few of his selected employees.
Through the 1970s, the DI lived on the island, though not
harmoniously. Members of the DI treated
the island like it was just another piece of land. They drilled holes in it, erected towers on
it and forced the natives to live in a separate area, held off by the sonar
fences. The scientists carelessly
drilled into the island and at one point drilled too far. There was an incident in early 1980s in which
the scientists decided to dig at a point where the island’s electromagnetic anomalies
were great. As they dug further, the
anomalies became stronger. They chased
this rabbit too far down the hole. Once
past a certain point, the electromagnetic waves got out of control and all
metal and electronic equipment went haywire.
As large pieces of equipment were sucked into the hole and the ground
trembled, the folks from the DI scrambled to plug the hole with anything that
was available. They filled it with
trucks, generators, tools and cement until the chaos subsided.
As a result of this incident, Dharma took notice in a built
up charge that would get very unstable after 108 minutes. This electromagnetic force needed to be discharged
every 108 minutes, or the ground would begin to tremble and the force would
become unstable. The DI decided to use
their currently erecting station, The Swan, to discharge this accruing EM force
to a very large capacitor, made up of several metallic plates buried on the
island and the land between them as a dielectric. This capacitor could be used to fix the built-up
charge that was created by the incident by turning the failsafe key and discharging
this energy. It would only work to fix
the problem if the capacitor has been charged up for enough years to discharge
a force large enough to fix the problem created by the incident. The Casimir effect speaks of a force between
two plates that are very close together, as a result of the particles that make
up the plates. The island acts as a catalyst for this force and allows it
accrue between the two metal plates over a greater distance. As the harmonic
oscillations of the plates cause a force to grow exponentially, the magnitude
of the oscillations get to a point of instability after a period of 108
minutes.
If anyone were to turn the failsafe key and release the
energy in the capacitor, they would no doubt experience some side effects. This misuse of the island made it and its
native inhabitants very unhappy, because the island is special and it is more
than a piece of land, it has a soul of its own.
The DI has now physically hurt the island, so it’s natives have set out
to eliminate them.
On one fateful day in Portland,
early 1970s, mathematician and scientist Horace Goodspeed and his wife Olivia
were driving along a coastal highway in Portland
and came across and man named Roger Linus holding his bloody wife Emily, who
had just given birth to their son, Benjamin.
Emily died after the premature birth of Benjamin and Horace and Olivia were
there. With Ben being a motherless
premature child of a woman named Emily, he fit the schema that had been
predicted as the reincarnation of the islands leader. Horace lured Roger and Ben to the island with
the premise that he had found work for Roger, when the real intention was to
get Ben there as he was guided by a man named Richard Alpert, one of the
island’s natives. Horace met Richard
Alpert on one of his walks around the island, while trying to get a break from
the DI. Horace, being a central and
spiritual person, knew that Richard was right.
Richard was told what to look for in a child that will be the
reincarnation of the island’s leader in a dream when he was spoken to by Jacob,
the spirit of the island; Richard told Horace what to look for from Jacob’s
prediction. Ben was also being taught
and observed by Olivia Goodspeed as he grew up.
As the DI and its scientists lived and studied on the
island, they became more and more aware of its mystical and special
properties. With the awareness of these
powers and the fact that the scientists have the ailment of being human, they
became greedy, and strayed away from their original intentions. Their focuses on studying these properties
for the sake of saving humanity began to dwindle as the focus to harness these
special powers for profit began to grow.
The members of the Dharma initiative began to move away from the ideals
of Alvar Hanso and were bought out by Charles Widmore one by one.
The first and most important man to sell out to Widmore was
Dr. Thomas Werner Middlewerk, chief of technology for the Hanso
foundation. Middlewerk continued to work
for the Hanso foundation, but he had his own set of scientists doing their own
work on the island. As instructed by
Charles Widmore, Middlewerk and his scientist only studied the powers on the
island that could be used for profit.
They studied parapsychology, extra-sensory perception, remote viewing
and the islands special healing properties.
For a man like Charles Widmore, harnessing these abilities will give him
a level of power that his money can not provide by itself. Widmore wants absolute power.
Lost_Dbutz- Lostie
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Re: A Complete Theory – Genealogy and Reincarnation
As Widmore and his team gradually take control of the island
and the DI, he learns that the island does have its own spirit. Despite dreams that he should stop abusing
the island, Charles Widmore continued to do so, making its spirits angry. In time, Widmore learned a great deal about
the island and its history. This
knowledge allowed Widmore and his team to continue abusing the island while
suppressing the island’s attempts to stop them.
They built houses and hatches around the islands ancient temples that
keep the island in its cycle. The tomb
of Abaddon had Ben’s house built on top of it.
This tomb could be used to summon Abaddon’s pet, Cerberus. They also froze the ancient wheel that keeps
the island moving from location to location.
All of this brought instability to the island, but could be maintained
under sets of rules. All Widmore had to
do was follow these rules, and he could avoid immediate disaster for himself
and his team. The island did, however,
manage to haunt Charles in his dreams.
The DI, as a whole, had been presented a choice to use the
island for good or for evil, and they began to choose evil as their scientists
took Middlewerk’s money that Widmore provided.
The island took it upon itself to judge the DI by using the help of one
of their own, little Benjamin Linus. As
a result of his genealogy, Ben has had a special connection with the island
since he had been conceived. The island
could speak to Ben, so it presented itself to him with the help of his mother’s
soul and the peaceful native, Richard Alpert.
The island lured Ben outside of the barracks and used Richard to help
plant a seed in his head to grow up and help eliminate the DI completely. The island had chosen Ben to be the one, for
the time being. Richard Alpert and the
natives have never seen someone who could communicate to the island in the way
that Ben could. The natives could always
live in harmony with the island, and did so by the guidance of subtle hints
presented to them in dreams, but never have they met someone who could see the
spirits of the dead and talk to them the way that Ben can.
The greatest abilities that the natives have seen before Ben
came along were those of Richard Alpert.
The island had granted Richard with the ability to travel great
distances and times, in a matter of seconds.
It’s this time traveling that has worked to keep Richard young, for his
biological equilibrium is not balanced the same way ours are. Richard does actually age, but only at a rate
that is one-twentieth the speed of our aging process.
As Ben grew up, the island talked to him and trained him to
harness its powers. Ben was already very
special, even to the point that he could see Jacob, the personified spirit of
the island. The island wanted Ben to
protect it. The island gave many gifts
and talents to Ben, that go beyond what many can even imagine. Ben learned all of the island’s secrets. The island blessed Ben with abilities and
tools to alter time and space, and hoped that he could control these powers and
use them for good. Jacob also spoke to
the natives in their dreams and told them to follow Ben, for he would be the
one to protect the island.
What the island didn’t anticipate about Ben Linus is that he
has mommy issues and has a lot of hate built up inside of him from years of
being abused and neglected by his father.
When Ben was a child, he fell in love with a little girl named
Annie. Annie was the only one who cared
about Ben, and as they grew to be teens they fell in love. Annie became pregnant and died as a result of
it because she had conceived on the island.
Ben had now lost Annie during the act of childbirth, much like his
mother, but not after she gave birth to their son Thomas. The natives kept Thomas away from Ben, under
Jacob’s instruction, sending him to Australia. Thomas later became the father of Aaron
Littleton.
Ben angrily pleaded with the Jacob to help him change the
course of Annie and his mother’s deaths.
Ben felt that Jacob had the ability to bring them both back, but he was
not doing so to control Ben more. Jacob
knew that it was Emily and Annie’s time to die, and that their souls are
residing where they are fated to be.
Even if Jacob could bring them back, fate will course correct and they
will be dead. Ben would not accept this
fate and he worked hard toward finding a cure to prevent pregnant women from
dying so he could go back and resurrect Annie and his mother. Much like Anakin Skywalker, Ben thought he
could harness the power to prevent his loved ones from dying, and tried to do
so with the anger and pain of their deaths in his heart.
Ben’s first job as the leader of the natives was to carry
out the purge. In doing so, Ben carries
out the desires of Jacob to eliminate the DI and gains the trust of the
natives. In the act of the purge, Ben
managed to take the island from the control of Charles Widmore. Ben has also utilized a section of time where
a supply drop was made. Either
periodically or by command, this time loop will occur and a supply drop will be
made. After the purge, Ben was also
instructed by Jacob to move the island.
Ben went out to the Orchid station and turned the frozen wheel, causing
the island to move and hiding it from Charles Widmore.
The Orchid station was originally intended for botanical
research, but the DI found that it had very special properties. As the island existed in the past, it would
periodically move from one vile vortex to another. Widmore and the DI has managed to freeze the
wheel to stop this process and control the location of the island.
Ben then continued to use his abilities to fulfill his own
agenda. Widmore continuously worked
toward tracking Ben and the location of the island. Ben used Richard’s Mittelos Bioscience to
recruit the help of fertility specialist, Juliet Burke, to come to the island
and help him with his fertility issue.
Ben also acquired a great liking toward Juliet because she looked a
great deal like his mother. Ben did
anything he had to in order to recruit Juliet to the island, including killing
her ex-husband and using her sister as leverage.
For 17 years Ben Linus remained the leader of the island’s
inhabitants. He spent this time seeking
out his own agenda to fix the issue of the pregnant women dying. Ben still felt that if he solved this
problem, he could go back and save his mother and Annie. The remnants of the DI remained and some were
used by Ben to help him to control his followers. The Flame station, used for communication,
was manned by Mikhail, Ben’s information man.
Whenever Ben wanted information on someone or something, Mikhail used
the Flame station to find it. The
Looking Glass station, manned (or wo-manned) by Bonnie and Greta, was uses to
block RF signals that might be radiated by the island or RF technology used on
the island in an effort to cloak it. All
signals were blocked except a special frequency, roughly 4.8 GHz and precisely
4,815,162,342 Hz.
In 1987, right after the purge, Ben took control of the
flame station, but there was a moment in which the station allowed signals to
leave the island to be detected in the real world. At this time the signal coming from the radio
tower built by the DI could be detected to the outside world. This signal, containing a loop of the
numbers, was detected by a group of French scientists who were just out of Tahiti. These
scientists crashed on the island. One of
the scientists was a pregnant Danielle Rousseau. Danielle gave birth to her daughter,
Alexandra, on the island, who was kidnapped by Ben so he could raise her as his
own daughter. Danielle, the only living member
of her team, remained in the jungle as her mind gradually deteriorated. She did, however, manage to stay safe from
the islands inhabitants because her dead lover Robert Montand was killed by the
island, and plead her case to the spirit of Jacob. Later, after Danielle and Alex were reunited,
Montand requested that the island allow them to die, so he could be with them
in the realm of the dead.
There were other stations on the island. The Hydra hatch is on a separate island of
its own, originally used for zoological research by the DI and now used by Ben
to hold people captive and act as a base on one of the islands small
surrounding lands. The Pearl is an observing station, where one can
see what is going on in all of the other stations. The Pearl
was used by Dharma as a psychological evaluation station, where all other
stations were watched and activities were recorded for psychological
evaluation. The scientists inside the Pearl were actually the
test subjects themselves. Ben used the Pearl to observe the
other stations and their happenings. Ben
could see that there was always someone inside the Swan station, pushing the
button to discharge the EM forces and keep everyone alive. This person was Dharma’s own Radzinsky for a
long time. Radzinsky was spared through
the purge so he could continue to push the button. Eventually Kelvin Inman found his way to the
island and he met Radzinsky. Inman
helped Radzinsky and played along that he was part of the DI. It was Radzinsky and Inman pushing the button
for a long time, until Radzinsky killed himself. Later, Desmond Hume showed up on the island
while on a boat race. Desmond met Inman
and was lured into helping him push the button.
Eventually Kelvin died and it was only Desmond pushing the button.
September 22nd, 2004 comes along and Oceanic
flight 815 comes to the island. This
plane had been filled by many. Widmore
had paid a great deal of money and had several years of research invested in
this flight. The pilot of Oceanic flight
815 had been paid to bring the plane to a special location, our island. The management of Oceanic told their pilot
for flight 815, Frank Lapidus, to stay home that day, as they had another pilot
who was in Widmore’s pocket fly the plane instead. This plane was meant to land safely on the
island and the pilot was supposed to leave these folks behind. Since, as fate would have it, Desmond didn’t
press the button on the Swan station in time, he allowed the EM charge to build
up enough to create a magnetic force large enough to rip the flight 815 Oceanic
aircraft into pieces while in mid air, once discharged.
The plane ripped into three main pieces: the fuselage, the
tail and the cockpit. This plane
contained a selected bunch of people.
Some of these people were put on the plane by Widmore, some people were
put on the plane by Paik, and some of them made it on the plane with the help
of a little fate. This plane contained
special people from every side that is trying to control the island, some even
brought by the island itself. Widmore
sent these special people with hopes that they would help bring down Ben, and
Widmore could study the island’s properties on his own. Widmore knew about Ben Linus and he knew that
it would take someone special to shake him from his post as leader of the
natives.
The special ability to communicate to the island on a higher
level is either something that is associated with one’s genealogy or
spirit. Some of our survivors are
special and some of them just need to grow to a better understanding of
life. The island will also work to help
its inhabitants redeem themselves, and will talk to them in subtle ways. Ben Linus is related to someone who had a
communion with the island long ago, but Richard Alpert thought that he may be
the chosen one. Christian Sheppard’s
father had a communion with the island. Charlie’s drug habit and lack of
purpose is why fate brought him to the island; to accomplish unselfish acts and
reflect on his life happily and sacrifice himself to protect Aaron. Aaron is very special; not only does he have
a genealogical connection to the island, but he is also a reincarnation of one
of the island’s great spiritual leaders who was killed by the meteor.
Christian Sheppard’s special abilities were passed down to
his children, Jack and Claire, as well as his grandson, Aaron. Locke is the most special of all. Locke is the reincarnation of Maharaj-ji, the
island’s protector from centuries ago, and mentor to Richard Alpert, who
survived the meteor. When Maharaj-ji
died, Richard began a search for the tomb which his spirit energy has
resided. Jacob told Richard that the boy
would be premature and born to a young redheaded Emily. It took time for Locke to realize who he was,
but he is learning now that he is on his Walkabout to the island. When Walt realized that he was truly Abaddon,
he had to go back in time and inspire John Locke to go on his walkabout. This is what brings Locke to the island, and
Locke was also responsible for helping young Walt see a spark of his own
potential. Locke didn’t even realize
that he was paying Walt/Abaddon back because he owed him one.
Hugo “Hurley” Reyes was chosen by the island to help
and learn. Hugo has special things that
he needs to do to help our survivors, and he has a lot of personal growth to
do. The island has helped him overcome
so much, but his past is still something that he cannot let go. Hugo is seeing apparitions of the island
because he is a reincarnation of one of the islands loyalist followers, who
also had a very large pet bird that survived the meteor. The bird has been searching for his master
ever since. The problem with Hugo is
that he has a huge ego (hugo – HUge eGO) and does not believe the things that
he sees. Hugo needs to learn that there
is more than what others tell him is real, and he needs to trust himself and
listen to the island.
and the DI, he learns that the island does have its own spirit. Despite dreams that he should stop abusing
the island, Charles Widmore continued to do so, making its spirits angry. In time, Widmore learned a great deal about
the island and its history. This
knowledge allowed Widmore and his team to continue abusing the island while
suppressing the island’s attempts to stop them.
They built houses and hatches around the islands ancient temples that
keep the island in its cycle. The tomb
of Abaddon had Ben’s house built on top of it.
This tomb could be used to summon Abaddon’s pet, Cerberus. They also froze the ancient wheel that keeps
the island moving from location to location.
All of this brought instability to the island, but could be maintained
under sets of rules. All Widmore had to
do was follow these rules, and he could avoid immediate disaster for himself
and his team. The island did, however,
manage to haunt Charles in his dreams.
The DI, as a whole, had been presented a choice to use the
island for good or for evil, and they began to choose evil as their scientists
took Middlewerk’s money that Widmore provided.
The island took it upon itself to judge the DI by using the help of one
of their own, little Benjamin Linus. As
a result of his genealogy, Ben has had a special connection with the island
since he had been conceived. The island
could speak to Ben, so it presented itself to him with the help of his mother’s
soul and the peaceful native, Richard Alpert.
The island lured Ben outside of the barracks and used Richard to help
plant a seed in his head to grow up and help eliminate the DI completely. The island had chosen Ben to be the one, for
the time being. Richard Alpert and the
natives have never seen someone who could communicate to the island in the way
that Ben could. The natives could always
live in harmony with the island, and did so by the guidance of subtle hints
presented to them in dreams, but never have they met someone who could see the
spirits of the dead and talk to them the way that Ben can.
The greatest abilities that the natives have seen before Ben
came along were those of Richard Alpert.
The island had granted Richard with the ability to travel great
distances and times, in a matter of seconds.
It’s this time traveling that has worked to keep Richard young, for his
biological equilibrium is not balanced the same way ours are. Richard does actually age, but only at a rate
that is one-twentieth the speed of our aging process.
As Ben grew up, the island talked to him and trained him to
harness its powers. Ben was already very
special, even to the point that he could see Jacob, the personified spirit of
the island. The island wanted Ben to
protect it. The island gave many gifts
and talents to Ben, that go beyond what many can even imagine. Ben learned all of the island’s secrets. The island blessed Ben with abilities and
tools to alter time and space, and hoped that he could control these powers and
use them for good. Jacob also spoke to
the natives in their dreams and told them to follow Ben, for he would be the
one to protect the island.
What the island didn’t anticipate about Ben Linus is that he
has mommy issues and has a lot of hate built up inside of him from years of
being abused and neglected by his father.
When Ben was a child, he fell in love with a little girl named
Annie. Annie was the only one who cared
about Ben, and as they grew to be teens they fell in love. Annie became pregnant and died as a result of
it because she had conceived on the island.
Ben had now lost Annie during the act of childbirth, much like his
mother, but not after she gave birth to their son Thomas. The natives kept Thomas away from Ben, under
Jacob’s instruction, sending him to Australia. Thomas later became the father of Aaron
Littleton.
Ben angrily pleaded with the Jacob to help him change the
course of Annie and his mother’s deaths.
Ben felt that Jacob had the ability to bring them both back, but he was
not doing so to control Ben more. Jacob
knew that it was Emily and Annie’s time to die, and that their souls are
residing where they are fated to be.
Even if Jacob could bring them back, fate will course correct and they
will be dead. Ben would not accept this
fate and he worked hard toward finding a cure to prevent pregnant women from
dying so he could go back and resurrect Annie and his mother. Much like Anakin Skywalker, Ben thought he
could harness the power to prevent his loved ones from dying, and tried to do
so with the anger and pain of their deaths in his heart.
Ben’s first job as the leader of the natives was to carry
out the purge. In doing so, Ben carries
out the desires of Jacob to eliminate the DI and gains the trust of the
natives. In the act of the purge, Ben
managed to take the island from the control of Charles Widmore. Ben has also utilized a section of time where
a supply drop was made. Either
periodically or by command, this time loop will occur and a supply drop will be
made. After the purge, Ben was also
instructed by Jacob to move the island.
Ben went out to the Orchid station and turned the frozen wheel, causing
the island to move and hiding it from Charles Widmore.
The Orchid station was originally intended for botanical
research, but the DI found that it had very special properties. As the island existed in the past, it would
periodically move from one vile vortex to another. Widmore and the DI has managed to freeze the
wheel to stop this process and control the location of the island.
Ben then continued to use his abilities to fulfill his own
agenda. Widmore continuously worked
toward tracking Ben and the location of the island. Ben used Richard’s Mittelos Bioscience to
recruit the help of fertility specialist, Juliet Burke, to come to the island
and help him with his fertility issue.
Ben also acquired a great liking toward Juliet because she looked a
great deal like his mother. Ben did
anything he had to in order to recruit Juliet to the island, including killing
her ex-husband and using her sister as leverage.
For 17 years Ben Linus remained the leader of the island’s
inhabitants. He spent this time seeking
out his own agenda to fix the issue of the pregnant women dying. Ben still felt that if he solved this
problem, he could go back and save his mother and Annie. The remnants of the DI remained and some were
used by Ben to help him to control his followers. The Flame station, used for communication,
was manned by Mikhail, Ben’s information man.
Whenever Ben wanted information on someone or something, Mikhail used
the Flame station to find it. The
Looking Glass station, manned (or wo-manned) by Bonnie and Greta, was uses to
block RF signals that might be radiated by the island or RF technology used on
the island in an effort to cloak it. All
signals were blocked except a special frequency, roughly 4.8 GHz and precisely
4,815,162,342 Hz.
In 1987, right after the purge, Ben took control of the
flame station, but there was a moment in which the station allowed signals to
leave the island to be detected in the real world. At this time the signal coming from the radio
tower built by the DI could be detected to the outside world. This signal, containing a loop of the
numbers, was detected by a group of French scientists who were just out of Tahiti. These
scientists crashed on the island. One of
the scientists was a pregnant Danielle Rousseau. Danielle gave birth to her daughter,
Alexandra, on the island, who was kidnapped by Ben so he could raise her as his
own daughter. Danielle, the only living member
of her team, remained in the jungle as her mind gradually deteriorated. She did, however, manage to stay safe from
the islands inhabitants because her dead lover Robert Montand was killed by the
island, and plead her case to the spirit of Jacob. Later, after Danielle and Alex were reunited,
Montand requested that the island allow them to die, so he could be with them
in the realm of the dead.
There were other stations on the island. The Hydra hatch is on a separate island of
its own, originally used for zoological research by the DI and now used by Ben
to hold people captive and act as a base on one of the islands small
surrounding lands. The Pearl is an observing station, where one can
see what is going on in all of the other stations. The Pearl
was used by Dharma as a psychological evaluation station, where all other
stations were watched and activities were recorded for psychological
evaluation. The scientists inside the Pearl were actually the
test subjects themselves. Ben used the Pearl to observe the
other stations and their happenings. Ben
could see that there was always someone inside the Swan station, pushing the
button to discharge the EM forces and keep everyone alive. This person was Dharma’s own Radzinsky for a
long time. Radzinsky was spared through
the purge so he could continue to push the button. Eventually Kelvin Inman found his way to the
island and he met Radzinsky. Inman
helped Radzinsky and played along that he was part of the DI. It was Radzinsky and Inman pushing the button
for a long time, until Radzinsky killed himself. Later, Desmond Hume showed up on the island
while on a boat race. Desmond met Inman
and was lured into helping him push the button.
Eventually Kelvin died and it was only Desmond pushing the button.
September 22nd, 2004 comes along and Oceanic
flight 815 comes to the island. This
plane had been filled by many. Widmore
had paid a great deal of money and had several years of research invested in
this flight. The pilot of Oceanic flight
815 had been paid to bring the plane to a special location, our island. The management of Oceanic told their pilot
for flight 815, Frank Lapidus, to stay home that day, as they had another pilot
who was in Widmore’s pocket fly the plane instead. This plane was meant to land safely on the
island and the pilot was supposed to leave these folks behind. Since, as fate would have it, Desmond didn’t
press the button on the Swan station in time, he allowed the EM charge to build
up enough to create a magnetic force large enough to rip the flight 815 Oceanic
aircraft into pieces while in mid air, once discharged.
The plane ripped into three main pieces: the fuselage, the
tail and the cockpit. This plane
contained a selected bunch of people.
Some of these people were put on the plane by Widmore, some people were
put on the plane by Paik, and some of them made it on the plane with the help
of a little fate. This plane contained
special people from every side that is trying to control the island, some even
brought by the island itself. Widmore
sent these special people with hopes that they would help bring down Ben, and
Widmore could study the island’s properties on his own. Widmore knew about Ben Linus and he knew that
it would take someone special to shake him from his post as leader of the
natives.
The special ability to communicate to the island on a higher
level is either something that is associated with one’s genealogy or
spirit. Some of our survivors are
special and some of them just need to grow to a better understanding of
life. The island will also work to help
its inhabitants redeem themselves, and will talk to them in subtle ways. Ben Linus is related to someone who had a
communion with the island long ago, but Richard Alpert thought that he may be
the chosen one. Christian Sheppard’s
father had a communion with the island. Charlie’s drug habit and lack of
purpose is why fate brought him to the island; to accomplish unselfish acts and
reflect on his life happily and sacrifice himself to protect Aaron. Aaron is very special; not only does he have
a genealogical connection to the island, but he is also a reincarnation of one
of the island’s great spiritual leaders who was killed by the meteor.
Christian Sheppard’s special abilities were passed down to
his children, Jack and Claire, as well as his grandson, Aaron. Locke is the most special of all. Locke is the reincarnation of Maharaj-ji, the
island’s protector from centuries ago, and mentor to Richard Alpert, who
survived the meteor. When Maharaj-ji
died, Richard began a search for the tomb which his spirit energy has
resided. Jacob told Richard that the boy
would be premature and born to a young redheaded Emily. It took time for Locke to realize who he was,
but he is learning now that he is on his Walkabout to the island. When Walt realized that he was truly Abaddon,
he had to go back in time and inspire John Locke to go on his walkabout. This is what brings Locke to the island, and
Locke was also responsible for helping young Walt see a spark of his own
potential. Locke didn’t even realize
that he was paying Walt/Abaddon back because he owed him one.
Hugo “Hurley” Reyes was chosen by the island to help
and learn. Hugo has special things that
he needs to do to help our survivors, and he has a lot of personal growth to
do. The island has helped him overcome
so much, but his past is still something that he cannot let go. Hugo is seeing apparitions of the island
because he is a reincarnation of one of the islands loyalist followers, who
also had a very large pet bird that survived the meteor. The bird has been searching for his master
ever since. The problem with Hugo is
that he has a huge ego (hugo – HUge eGO) and does not believe the things that
he sees. Hugo needs to learn that there
is more than what others tell him is real, and he needs to trust himself and
listen to the island.
Lost_Dbutz- Lostie
- Number of posts : 71
Age : 41
Registration date : 2008-05-18
Re: A Complete Theory – Genealogy and Reincarnation
All of our survivors are on the island for a reason. Kate Austin has to come to terms with herself
and learn that she cannot run away prom problems. She has 2 sides to her; she is a sweet and
innocent person who wants stability in her life, but she is also a rebel who
cannot settle down. This is why one side
of her is drawn to Jack and another side is drawn to Sawyer. Sawyer is also on the island to grow by
addressing his past. Sawyer is learning
from the island and his interactions with the survivors that he can be a good
person. He has faced and overcome many
of his demons, but still has more to learn.
Another survivor, Sayid Jarrah, has many demons that he must face from
years of torturing people after working in the republican guard.
Widmore managed to approximately locate the island and arrange
it so that most of the passengers of Oceanic flight 815 would be comprised of people
whom he thought was special. Widmore
spent a great deal of finances trying to find people whom he thought might have
a communion with the island. He managed
to give tickets to these passengers in very creative ways. With all of his money and power, Widmore has
been able to buy many people to help him with his plans. Widmore paid a supposed psychic, Richard
Malkin, to get Claire and Eko on the plane.
The government agents that gave Sayid his ticket were all working for
Widmore.
The remaining passengers of flight 815 made it on to the plane
just by circumstance. These people could
just be in the wrong place at the wrong time, or they were somehow guided to
take the flight by the island. There is
one couple, the Kwon’s, who were put on the plane for a different reason. Jin was given a watch by his boss, Mr.Paik
(Sun’s father), to deliver to someone in L.A. This watch was actually a global location
device. Mr.Paik had corporate spies that
gathered intelligence about Widmore and his plans for Oceanic flight 815. Knowing that his daughter was unhappy in her
marriage to Jin, Mr.Paik arranged to have Jin sent to the island along with the
rest of the flight 815 passengers, so that he could find the island and his
daughter could also get away. Sun was
supposed to leave Jin at the airport and he was supposed to take the watch to
the island by himself, but she decided to go with him at the last moment.
Widmore also paid Libby to give Desmond the boat that he
used that got him lost on the island. Since
Desmond had shown interest in competing in his boat race, Widmore found this as
a golden opportunity to get rid of him and get closer to locating the island by
sending him to it. Libby is an employee
of Widmore’s who was also sent to the island to provide him with updates and
feedback as to what was going on with the survivors. She did some spying on Hurley at the ward to
check his progress as a prospected special person who could communicate to it. Widmore bought the journal of Magnus Hanso in
1996 at a private auction, knowing that the Hanso family had lost a great deal
of money and power after the purge. If
anyone else were to purchase this journal, they could find the island and
potentially become competition for Widmore. The journal also provided Widmore with
information for locating the island.
Since the arrival of flight 815, Ben learned that there were
several “special” people on board. This
made Ben suspicious and he eventually realized that it was Charles Widmore who
sent the plane. Widmore knows a lot
about Ben and Ben knows a lot about Widmore.
As a first resort to keep Widmore from finding the island, Ben plotted
to have all possibilities of communication to the island wiped out. Ben knew that turning the failsafe key would
cause all of the communication equipment on the island to stop working, making
the island nearly invisible to Widmore.
Ben manipulated Locke while he was held captive and
eventually used him as a tool to stop pressing the button inside the Swan,
forcing Desmond to turn the failsafe key.
This was Ben’s first line of defense against hiding the island from
Widmore, but it didn’t work. Ben was
reluctant to use the emergency escape protocol (EEP), which involved chipping
the ice away from the wheel in the Orchid station and moving it. After the island had not moved in such a long
time, allowing it to move could be unpredictable, as the charge that built up
in the island was associated with the fact that the wheel was not moving.
When the failsafe key was turned and the sky turned purple,
the island’s large capacitor was discharged and there was a large pulse of
electro-magnetic energy. This energy
killed all of the communication equipment, just as Ben had suspected. The energy release also caused a side effect
for Desmond, causing him to separate his consciousness to be ripped from the
fabric of time. None of Ben’s follower
suspected Ben to be responsible because he was at the Pala Ferry dock when the
failsafe key was turned. Ben also used
Locke as a tool to blow up the submarine, sealing the people in the snow-globe
that is the island. Once again, no one
could point their finger at Ben because he had manipulated Locke to do his
dirty work.
Now, with his communication to the island shut down, Widmore
sent a freighter out to find the island and take it over. This freighter was full of scientists, who
were assigned to study the islands paranormal characteristics. Some other people on the freighter were sent
to capture Ben Linus and exterminate the rest of the survivors. This was Widmore’s attempt at a purge. Some people on this freighter were special,
and it was their fate to be on the island; some people were just filling
Widmore’s orders; one of the freighter’s passengers was Michael. Michael was sent to the freighter to do work
for Ben, but he really had his own agenda for redemption. Michael got off the island, but his life was
riddled with the guilt of what he had done to get off. When people spend some time on the island and
leave, life in the real world just isn’t right.
There is a yearning to get back to the island which one cannot
escape. If the island has plans for
someone, it will not allow them to be at peace unless those plans are carried
out.
All of the children and Vincent had special powers because
there is something special about children and pets. They can sense things and see into the true
nature of people better than adult humans can, and this sense carries over to
the island. Whenever Ben gets word of a
child that had made it to the island, Ben kidnaps them and brainwashes them to
rid them of their powers. Ben will lock
the children in room 23 and subject them to brainwashing videos that will
scramble their brains and cause their special powers to be un-focused. This brainwashing has not worked on Walt, so
Ben was willing to let Michael take him home.
Ben would not want Walt growing up to learn how special he is, because Abaddon
would usurp his position for his manipulating ways. Ben made sure he used Michael to do his
bidding before he released them.
Locke is learning that he is very special and he has been
since he landed on the island. The
island immediately healed his paralysis after allowing him to survive the
crash. Locke has been a man of faith and
has trusted the word of the island since the beginning. The island had spoken to Locke in his dreams
as it guided him to the hatch and has helped him to focus his energy. Locke understands the island and knows that
he should stay and protect it and its simple ways, but he does not yet know who
he truly is.
Ben also knows that Locke is very special after getting his
information packet from Mikhail, revealing that the island healed his
paralysis. Ben had always thought that
he was the chosen one, the reincarnation of Maharaj-ji, but he always knew deep
down that he wasn’t, and that the true chosen one would someday come.
Ben knew he could not just kidnap Locke and brainwash him in
room 23, he had to manipulate him and con him in order to remove him as an
obstacle. Ben knew that his followers
doubted him and his priorities, so he tried to humiliate Locke by showing that
he was too much of a coward to kill his own father. Locke however got some help, and showed his
leadership by bringing his father’s dead body to Ben and beating up Mikhail in
front of Ben and his followers. This
helped to convince Ben to bring Locke to see Jacob. Ben was also curious just how special Locke
is. If Locke could see Jacob, then we
would most assuredly be the chosen one.
When Ben took Locke to the cabin where Jacob was held
captive, Locke was able to hear Jacob. Jacob
asked Locke to help him, because the island needs to be moved before Widmore’s
men come and take over. This confirmed
Ben’s fears that Locke was the true Maharaj-ji, and so Ben took this chance to
shoot Locke and leave him for dead. The
island did not want to let Locke die, so he spoke to him in the form of Walt to
convince him not to lose faith. Locke
survived, thanks to his missing kidney.
Now Locke had more faith than ever.
He can talk to Jacob, he can walk, his father is dead and his missing
kidney turned out to be a good thing.
Locke truly had been given a clean slate (Tabula rasa) on this island
and is set out to protect it.
Jacob told Locke that the people on the freighter have been
sent by a man who wants to exploit the island, much like the DI. Locke thought this meant that he should
eliminate these people. Locke then made
the mistake of throwing a knife in the back of Naomi, who had been recruited by
Abaddon to infiltrate Widmores freighter and help bring some more “special”
people to the island. After doing this,
Locke also tried to bring his whole camp to see Jacob. This made Jacob mad, so he did not want to
speak to Locke until he learned how special of a privilege it was to do so.
Jacob was limited in his ability to communicate to people,
so he did so with visions and by granting special abilities. Jacob thought he might be able to talk to
Hurley. Hurley had gained a great deal
of faith on the island and has overcome a lot, so he might be ready and willing
to talk to Jacob. Jacob has been trying
to speak to Hurley, but he is not having luck getting Hurley to believe. Hurley forces himself to not believe visions
presented to him, and he doesn’t realize his special abilities, even if they
are just helping him with horseshoes.
Hurley has had issues in the past where he thought he was seeing
something (or someone) that wasn’t actually there. Hurley has learned to suppress these visions,
which has resulted in a lack of ability to see and hear Jacob. His huge ego is still getting in the way.
and learn that she cannot run away prom problems. She has 2 sides to her; she is a sweet and
innocent person who wants stability in her life, but she is also a rebel who
cannot settle down. This is why one side
of her is drawn to Jack and another side is drawn to Sawyer. Sawyer is also on the island to grow by
addressing his past. Sawyer is learning
from the island and his interactions with the survivors that he can be a good
person. He has faced and overcome many
of his demons, but still has more to learn.
Another survivor, Sayid Jarrah, has many demons that he must face from
years of torturing people after working in the republican guard.
Widmore managed to approximately locate the island and arrange
it so that most of the passengers of Oceanic flight 815 would be comprised of people
whom he thought was special. Widmore
spent a great deal of finances trying to find people whom he thought might have
a communion with the island. He managed
to give tickets to these passengers in very creative ways. With all of his money and power, Widmore has
been able to buy many people to help him with his plans. Widmore paid a supposed psychic, Richard
Malkin, to get Claire and Eko on the plane.
The government agents that gave Sayid his ticket were all working for
Widmore.
The remaining passengers of flight 815 made it on to the plane
just by circumstance. These people could
just be in the wrong place at the wrong time, or they were somehow guided to
take the flight by the island. There is
one couple, the Kwon’s, who were put on the plane for a different reason. Jin was given a watch by his boss, Mr.Paik
(Sun’s father), to deliver to someone in L.A. This watch was actually a global location
device. Mr.Paik had corporate spies that
gathered intelligence about Widmore and his plans for Oceanic flight 815. Knowing that his daughter was unhappy in her
marriage to Jin, Mr.Paik arranged to have Jin sent to the island along with the
rest of the flight 815 passengers, so that he could find the island and his
daughter could also get away. Sun was
supposed to leave Jin at the airport and he was supposed to take the watch to
the island by himself, but she decided to go with him at the last moment.
Widmore also paid Libby to give Desmond the boat that he
used that got him lost on the island. Since
Desmond had shown interest in competing in his boat race, Widmore found this as
a golden opportunity to get rid of him and get closer to locating the island by
sending him to it. Libby is an employee
of Widmore’s who was also sent to the island to provide him with updates and
feedback as to what was going on with the survivors. She did some spying on Hurley at the ward to
check his progress as a prospected special person who could communicate to it. Widmore bought the journal of Magnus Hanso in
1996 at a private auction, knowing that the Hanso family had lost a great deal
of money and power after the purge. If
anyone else were to purchase this journal, they could find the island and
potentially become competition for Widmore. The journal also provided Widmore with
information for locating the island.
Since the arrival of flight 815, Ben learned that there were
several “special” people on board. This
made Ben suspicious and he eventually realized that it was Charles Widmore who
sent the plane. Widmore knows a lot
about Ben and Ben knows a lot about Widmore.
As a first resort to keep Widmore from finding the island, Ben plotted
to have all possibilities of communication to the island wiped out. Ben knew that turning the failsafe key would
cause all of the communication equipment on the island to stop working, making
the island nearly invisible to Widmore.
Ben manipulated Locke while he was held captive and
eventually used him as a tool to stop pressing the button inside the Swan,
forcing Desmond to turn the failsafe key.
This was Ben’s first line of defense against hiding the island from
Widmore, but it didn’t work. Ben was
reluctant to use the emergency escape protocol (EEP), which involved chipping
the ice away from the wheel in the Orchid station and moving it. After the island had not moved in such a long
time, allowing it to move could be unpredictable, as the charge that built up
in the island was associated with the fact that the wheel was not moving.
When the failsafe key was turned and the sky turned purple,
the island’s large capacitor was discharged and there was a large pulse of
electro-magnetic energy. This energy
killed all of the communication equipment, just as Ben had suspected. The energy release also caused a side effect
for Desmond, causing him to separate his consciousness to be ripped from the
fabric of time. None of Ben’s follower
suspected Ben to be responsible because he was at the Pala Ferry dock when the
failsafe key was turned. Ben also used
Locke as a tool to blow up the submarine, sealing the people in the snow-globe
that is the island. Once again, no one
could point their finger at Ben because he had manipulated Locke to do his
dirty work.
Now, with his communication to the island shut down, Widmore
sent a freighter out to find the island and take it over. This freighter was full of scientists, who
were assigned to study the islands paranormal characteristics. Some other people on the freighter were sent
to capture Ben Linus and exterminate the rest of the survivors. This was Widmore’s attempt at a purge. Some people on this freighter were special,
and it was their fate to be on the island; some people were just filling
Widmore’s orders; one of the freighter’s passengers was Michael. Michael was sent to the freighter to do work
for Ben, but he really had his own agenda for redemption. Michael got off the island, but his life was
riddled with the guilt of what he had done to get off. When people spend some time on the island and
leave, life in the real world just isn’t right.
There is a yearning to get back to the island which one cannot
escape. If the island has plans for
someone, it will not allow them to be at peace unless those plans are carried
out.
All of the children and Vincent had special powers because
there is something special about children and pets. They can sense things and see into the true
nature of people better than adult humans can, and this sense carries over to
the island. Whenever Ben gets word of a
child that had made it to the island, Ben kidnaps them and brainwashes them to
rid them of their powers. Ben will lock
the children in room 23 and subject them to brainwashing videos that will
scramble their brains and cause their special powers to be un-focused. This brainwashing has not worked on Walt, so
Ben was willing to let Michael take him home.
Ben would not want Walt growing up to learn how special he is, because Abaddon
would usurp his position for his manipulating ways. Ben made sure he used Michael to do his
bidding before he released them.
Locke is learning that he is very special and he has been
since he landed on the island. The
island immediately healed his paralysis after allowing him to survive the
crash. Locke has been a man of faith and
has trusted the word of the island since the beginning. The island had spoken to Locke in his dreams
as it guided him to the hatch and has helped him to focus his energy. Locke understands the island and knows that
he should stay and protect it and its simple ways, but he does not yet know who
he truly is.
Ben also knows that Locke is very special after getting his
information packet from Mikhail, revealing that the island healed his
paralysis. Ben had always thought that
he was the chosen one, the reincarnation of Maharaj-ji, but he always knew deep
down that he wasn’t, and that the true chosen one would someday come.
Ben knew he could not just kidnap Locke and brainwash him in
room 23, he had to manipulate him and con him in order to remove him as an
obstacle. Ben knew that his followers
doubted him and his priorities, so he tried to humiliate Locke by showing that
he was too much of a coward to kill his own father. Locke however got some help, and showed his
leadership by bringing his father’s dead body to Ben and beating up Mikhail in
front of Ben and his followers. This
helped to convince Ben to bring Locke to see Jacob. Ben was also curious just how special Locke
is. If Locke could see Jacob, then we
would most assuredly be the chosen one.
When Ben took Locke to the cabin where Jacob was held
captive, Locke was able to hear Jacob. Jacob
asked Locke to help him, because the island needs to be moved before Widmore’s
men come and take over. This confirmed
Ben’s fears that Locke was the true Maharaj-ji, and so Ben took this chance to
shoot Locke and leave him for dead. The
island did not want to let Locke die, so he spoke to him in the form of Walt to
convince him not to lose faith. Locke
survived, thanks to his missing kidney.
Now Locke had more faith than ever.
He can talk to Jacob, he can walk, his father is dead and his missing
kidney turned out to be a good thing.
Locke truly had been given a clean slate (Tabula rasa) on this island
and is set out to protect it.
Jacob told Locke that the people on the freighter have been
sent by a man who wants to exploit the island, much like the DI. Locke thought this meant that he should
eliminate these people. Locke then made
the mistake of throwing a knife in the back of Naomi, who had been recruited by
Abaddon to infiltrate Widmores freighter and help bring some more “special”
people to the island. After doing this,
Locke also tried to bring his whole camp to see Jacob. This made Jacob mad, so he did not want to
speak to Locke until he learned how special of a privilege it was to do so.
Jacob was limited in his ability to communicate to people,
so he did so with visions and by granting special abilities. Jacob thought he might be able to talk to
Hurley. Hurley had gained a great deal
of faith on the island and has overcome a lot, so he might be ready and willing
to talk to Jacob. Jacob has been trying
to speak to Hurley, but he is not having luck getting Hurley to believe. Hurley forces himself to not believe visions
presented to him, and he doesn’t realize his special abilities, even if they
are just helping him with horseshoes.
Hurley has had issues in the past where he thought he was seeing
something (or someone) that wasn’t actually there. Hurley has learned to suppress these visions,
which has resulted in a lack of ability to see and hear Jacob. His huge ego is still getting in the way.
Lost_Dbutz- Lostie
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Re: A Complete Theory – Genealogy and Reincarnation
Jack is also very special, but he is fighting an internal
battle. Since he is a doctor, Jack has
studied medical journals for years. He
has found a scientific explanation for everything that he has seen. Every time Jack starts to believe that there
is something beyond science and that miracles do occur, something happens that
destroys his faith. Jack is strictly a
man of science. He feels special powers
deep down inside of him, but he fights them and denies them because he has no
way to explain them. Jack has abandoned
faith because he feels that faith has abandoned him. Jack wants to get off of the island because
he doesn’t know how to appreciate the island for what it is. This will eventually be his downfall.
WARNING: LOTS OF
SPOILERISH INFO AFTER THIS POINT
After Locke speaks to Horace in his dream, he finds the
cabin and is told by Christian Sheppard, speaking for Jacob, that the island
must be moved. After hearing this, Ben
knows that the emergency escape protocol must be carried out. Ben, now realizing that Locke is the true
reincarnation of Marahaj-ji, leads Locke and Hurley to the Orchid to move the
wheel. Knowing that Widmore has likely
already sent Keamy and Co. to the Orchid, Ben stops near the temple on the way
and instructs Richard and the natives to come and help. Richard and the natives find Kate and Sayid
on their way to the Orchid. Ben tells
Locke about the Orchid and some history of the island. Locke’s beliefs are now confirmed that the
island must remain a secret from the common man, for its powers would be abused
and the world would be destroyed.
Jack still does not believe and is hell bent on getting
people off of the island. Locke tells
Jack that he may go, but he must never tell anyone about the island. Jack agrees to never tell of its existence,
also feeling that if he were to tell people of it, no one would believe him
because he could not provide proof.
Hurley, Kate, Jack, Sawyer and Sayid get in the helicopter with Franks Lapidus
and they fly out to the freighter. Once
on the freighter, they learn that the C4 will soon explode, as it was attached
to a heart monitor that Keamy had on.
Jack tells the people on the freighter that Keamy had been killed and
they must get off of it. The helicopter
can only hold so much weight, so Jack makes the decision to bring only Aaron
and the pregnant Sun on board. While
trying to take off, the helicopter continued to have issues due to too much
weight. Sawyer gives Kate one last kiss
and jumps off of the helicopter, while simultaneously Locke turns the wheel in
the Orchid, moving the island to another time and place.
THE END…(for now)
battle. Since he is a doctor, Jack has
studied medical journals for years. He
has found a scientific explanation for everything that he has seen. Every time Jack starts to believe that there
is something beyond science and that miracles do occur, something happens that
destroys his faith. Jack is strictly a
man of science. He feels special powers
deep down inside of him, but he fights them and denies them because he has no
way to explain them. Jack has abandoned
faith because he feels that faith has abandoned him. Jack wants to get off of the island because
he doesn’t know how to appreciate the island for what it is. This will eventually be his downfall.
WARNING: LOTS OF
SPOILERISH INFO AFTER THIS POINT
After Locke speaks to Horace in his dream, he finds the
cabin and is told by Christian Sheppard, speaking for Jacob, that the island
must be moved. After hearing this, Ben
knows that the emergency escape protocol must be carried out. Ben, now realizing that Locke is the true
reincarnation of Marahaj-ji, leads Locke and Hurley to the Orchid to move the
wheel. Knowing that Widmore has likely
already sent Keamy and Co. to the Orchid, Ben stops near the temple on the way
and instructs Richard and the natives to come and help. Richard and the natives find Kate and Sayid
on their way to the Orchid. Ben tells
Locke about the Orchid and some history of the island. Locke’s beliefs are now confirmed that the
island must remain a secret from the common man, for its powers would be abused
and the world would be destroyed.
Jack still does not believe and is hell bent on getting
people off of the island. Locke tells
Jack that he may go, but he must never tell anyone about the island. Jack agrees to never tell of its existence,
also feeling that if he were to tell people of it, no one would believe him
because he could not provide proof.
Hurley, Kate, Jack, Sawyer and Sayid get in the helicopter with Franks Lapidus
and they fly out to the freighter. Once
on the freighter, they learn that the C4 will soon explode, as it was attached
to a heart monitor that Keamy had on.
Jack tells the people on the freighter that Keamy had been killed and
they must get off of it. The helicopter
can only hold so much weight, so Jack makes the decision to bring only Aaron
and the pregnant Sun on board. While
trying to take off, the helicopter continued to have issues due to too much
weight. Sawyer gives Kate one last kiss
and jumps off of the helicopter, while simultaneously Locke turns the wheel in
the Orchid, moving the island to another time and place.
THE END…(for now)
Lost_Dbutz- Lostie
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Re: A Complete Theory – Genealogy and Reincarnation
Wow! A lot of what you have laid out would definitely explain what is going on on the island. I will have to bookmark this to come back and compare over the next few season to see how much you got right.
My only question is where did you find the time to write this much!
My only question is where did you find the time to write this much!
Alaina- Others
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Re: A Complete Theory – Genealogy and Reincarnation
L_D! it's either amphetamines or dedication!
That pint still stands re: Abbadon, but so much else to absorb....
a gargantuan opus magnifico, and I thought Doestoevsky could go some!!
Attempting to process....
.....system failure!!.....system failure!!
this post has to classify as legendary, and you have given me a lot to think about. Jolly good show old bean!
That pint still stands re: Abbadon, but so much else to absorb....
a gargantuan opus magnifico, and I thought Doestoevsky could go some!!
Attempting to process....
.....system failure!!.....system failure!!
this post has to classify as legendary, and you have given me a lot to think about. Jolly good show old bean!
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Re: A Complete Theory – Genealogy and Reincarnation
Great job. I think you hit many marks!
tracker- Others
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Re: A Complete Theory – Genealogy and Reincarnation
Solarchap! How you doin old chap? I know, we are still on for that pint... I thought I'd never be able to cash it in after LT went AWOL, but I will...
Thanks for the kind words everyone, and double thanks for taking the time to read through all of this, messed up text and all.
Thanks for the kind words everyone, and double thanks for taking the time to read through all of this, messed up text and all.
Lost_Dbutz- Lostie
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Age : 41
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Re: A Complete Theory – Genealogy and Reincarnation
"I thought I'd never never be able to cash it in after LT went AWOL but I will..." !!!!
LOL!
I hope it will be Me who gets to cash it in LOL!
I sunk a good few Stellas last night as it happens, in preperation for my day of victory !!!
Friday and saturdays are heavy going out nights for me, plus I have just recently finished my last exam at uni, and if all goes well, I will graduate the second week of july, so between now and then there's serious drinking ahead for me hooray!
I am going to give your whole opus a thorough digestion tomorrow afternoon, there was a lot of good and interesting ideas which I liked in it which I want to investigate further.
And of course when I saw Abbadon pushing Locke at the hospital, I of course, immediately thought of the pint and thought of you sitting there, gleefully rubbing your hands together! But of course there is a lot more for us to find out about his story yet! LOL!
When you get a chance, find the post which asks everyone how they chose their username, and leave a post explaining your name, it was really good and funny to read how everyone chose their particular name.
Great post, I wil be getting back to you on it in more detail tomorrow. And I should be changing my name from solarchap to oldchap as I hit 38 in a fortnight!
LOL!
I hope it will be Me who gets to cash it in LOL!
I sunk a good few Stellas last night as it happens, in preperation for my day of victory !!!
Friday and saturdays are heavy going out nights for me, plus I have just recently finished my last exam at uni, and if all goes well, I will graduate the second week of july, so between now and then there's serious drinking ahead for me hooray!
I am going to give your whole opus a thorough digestion tomorrow afternoon, there was a lot of good and interesting ideas which I liked in it which I want to investigate further.
And of course when I saw Abbadon pushing Locke at the hospital, I of course, immediately thought of the pint and thought of you sitting there, gleefully rubbing your hands together! But of course there is a lot more for us to find out about his story yet! LOL!
When you get a chance, find the post which asks everyone how they chose their username, and leave a post explaining your name, it was really good and funny to read how everyone chose their particular name.
Great post, I wil be getting back to you on it in more detail tomorrow. And I should be changing my name from solarchap to oldchap as I hit 38 in a fortnight!
solarchap- Others
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Name: Dirk Diggler
Re: A Complete Theory – Genealogy and Reincarnation
So when you said a complete theory, you really meant a complete theory. Wow I got to the second commet. Good so farm, bookmarked.
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Re: A Complete Theory – Genealogy and Reincarnation
I will be giving this the proper attention it deserves tomorrow - as I'm a little drunk right now. Well it is Saturday night
I read the first couple of paragraphs and realised this is sit down, phone off the hook, no disruptions kinda read, and I look forward to reading it in full!
I read the first couple of paragraphs and realised this is sit down, phone off the hook, no disruptions kinda read, and I look forward to reading it in full!
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Re: A Complete Theory – Genealogy and Reincarnation
SC, I was so thinking of our pint bet when I saw that scene as well, as I will everytime Abaddon appears. BTW, congrats on near graduation!
Hope you all enjoyed a nice weekend of drinking. I certainly did! Went to the Gorge and saw a bunch of bands at Sasquatch festival...awesome.
Can't wait to hear back from you guys once you've mulled it over. 2 more days until the season finale.
Hope you all enjoyed a nice weekend of drinking. I certainly did! Went to the Gorge and saw a bunch of bands at Sasquatch festival...awesome.
Can't wait to hear back from you guys once you've mulled it over. 2 more days until the season finale.
Lost_Dbutz- Lostie
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Re: A Complete Theory – Genealogy and Reincarnation
Sasquatch! you lucky thang!
I have been in a Jack Daniels induced stupor for the best part of a week, I also spent 26 hours straight playing Resident evil 4...awesome game!
So there will be some synchronicity every time we see Abbadon! I like it, but one of us is heading for a fall!! I hope it aint me LOL!
Ok so the season finale has come and gone now, and it did kinda change some things both ways from the legendary post.... for example, I really liked the idea of Old widders having infiltrated the island, via spies, via Mittlewerk etc, but now I'm left thinking that it seems like Charles already had a long time vested interest, and this also leaves me wondering about old Paiky and where he fits in?
I didn't buy so much into the Jacob not realising about Ben's Mommy Issues, surely the all-seeing/knowing Jacob would have realised that. There has been talk of Jacob being the bad guy for a while now, I especially found the bit where Christian shepherd (or the apparition of him) told Michael he could go now very cold, very disturbing, and so I could believe that Jacob DID know about Ben's Mommy Issues and used him, but perhaps even Jacob wasn't ready for BENipulation of the highest degree!
I do agree that John Locke has been off course several times in his attempts to do what Jacob/the Island wanted him to, from the very beginning when he let himself get caught up in the Swan instead of going straight to the Pearl, and that he has been in and out of favour.
Can't accept Abbadon Being Walt! But I can see why the thought is there, I just don't buy it (yet!)
Darlton just revealed on the UK LOST special that Cerberus is definitely NOT technological in origin which makes it appear that your theory is looking good and my coffers short by £3.00, however it still doesn't mean Abbadon is the Daddy! Time will Tell!
I think when you have the time, you should try and reformulate the theory based on our knowledge now i.e. since the season finale (that fight between Sayid & Keamy was Class!) see if you can work any of the new angles into it, no small task, but you have a history of presenting Hurculean Manuscripts, so if anyone can, you can!
ere, what abou the old frozen donkey wheel then..... have you got any ideas on who froze the thing? and the fact there were metal ladders and rails leading down to it, does that mean Dharma were aware of it?
These things have probably been addressed on this site somewhere, but I haven't been on it much in about a week, so i'll peruse the posts now, but let me know if you have any answers. wikid.
I have been in a Jack Daniels induced stupor for the best part of a week, I also spent 26 hours straight playing Resident evil 4...awesome game!
So there will be some synchronicity every time we see Abbadon! I like it, but one of us is heading for a fall!! I hope it aint me LOL!
Ok so the season finale has come and gone now, and it did kinda change some things both ways from the legendary post.... for example, I really liked the idea of Old widders having infiltrated the island, via spies, via Mittlewerk etc, but now I'm left thinking that it seems like Charles already had a long time vested interest, and this also leaves me wondering about old Paiky and where he fits in?
I didn't buy so much into the Jacob not realising about Ben's Mommy Issues, surely the all-seeing/knowing Jacob would have realised that. There has been talk of Jacob being the bad guy for a while now, I especially found the bit where Christian shepherd (or the apparition of him) told Michael he could go now very cold, very disturbing, and so I could believe that Jacob DID know about Ben's Mommy Issues and used him, but perhaps even Jacob wasn't ready for BENipulation of the highest degree!
I do agree that John Locke has been off course several times in his attempts to do what Jacob/the Island wanted him to, from the very beginning when he let himself get caught up in the Swan instead of going straight to the Pearl, and that he has been in and out of favour.
Can't accept Abbadon Being Walt! But I can see why the thought is there, I just don't buy it (yet!)
Darlton just revealed on the UK LOST special that Cerberus is definitely NOT technological in origin which makes it appear that your theory is looking good and my coffers short by £3.00, however it still doesn't mean Abbadon is the Daddy! Time will Tell!
I think when you have the time, you should try and reformulate the theory based on our knowledge now i.e. since the season finale (that fight between Sayid & Keamy was Class!) see if you can work any of the new angles into it, no small task, but you have a history of presenting Hurculean Manuscripts, so if anyone can, you can!
ere, what abou the old frozen donkey wheel then..... have you got any ideas on who froze the thing? and the fact there were metal ladders and rails leading down to it, does that mean Dharma were aware of it?
These things have probably been addressed on this site somewhere, but I haven't been on it much in about a week, so i'll peruse the posts now, but let me know if you have any answers. wikid.
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Re: A Complete Theory – Genealogy and Reincarnation
SolarChap, so did you get your grades back? Did you pass? Are you a bonified professional now? What was your subject?
I think I've heard enough people comment that resident evil 4 is awesome, so I will have to go and get it.
I'm guessing that I will alter this theory again and again as time goes by, so not worries, it'll happen.
I did actually write a threory that talks about the frozen polar bear wheel and some of the scientific stuff, as well as the Swan station and the incident, not sure if you checked it out. It is called "motional EMP and the froxen polar bear wheel" and it is in the Big Theories section here. I'm kinda proud of it, but the response doesn't indicate that it is that special.
Either way, you should check it out and let me know what you think.
I've been such a writer and not as much of a reader and commenter, I think I should pay respects to these other folks and their theories and read more of them. I'll do some of that and might come back with a whole new theory and perspective.
I also need to work to get my "be here now" picture theory in here, it got a great response over at LT.com. It's #7 in the highest rated theories, which makes me happier than Hurley rolling around in a tub of ranch.
Peace.
I think I've heard enough people comment that resident evil 4 is awesome, so I will have to go and get it.
I'm guessing that I will alter this theory again and again as time goes by, so not worries, it'll happen.
I did actually write a threory that talks about the frozen polar bear wheel and some of the scientific stuff, as well as the Swan station and the incident, not sure if you checked it out. It is called "motional EMP and the froxen polar bear wheel" and it is in the Big Theories section here. I'm kinda proud of it, but the response doesn't indicate that it is that special.
Either way, you should check it out and let me know what you think.
I've been such a writer and not as much of a reader and commenter, I think I should pay respects to these other folks and their theories and read more of them. I'll do some of that and might come back with a whole new theory and perspective.
I also need to work to get my "be here now" picture theory in here, it got a great response over at LT.com. It's #7 in the highest rated theories, which makes me happier than Hurley rolling around in a tub of ranch.
Peace.
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Re: A Complete Theory – Genealogy and Reincarnation
Hi L_D,
still wating for my results, but it won't be long now, my degree title is Biosciences: Human Molecular Biology but it's all biochemistry really! I won't be looking to get a first class pass or anything, but as long as I pass , that will do me.
The scary bit is then I'll have to go back to work!
I hadn't seen the motional EMP theory but I'll be sure to check it out.
The be here now stuff was very good, I don't go on LT no more but have you posted that on here yet?
Reading......writing.....It's all good, people can choose what they want or don't want to read, so I wouldn't worry about it.
still wating for my results, but it won't be long now, my degree title is Biosciences: Human Molecular Biology but it's all biochemistry really! I won't be looking to get a first class pass or anything, but as long as I pass , that will do me.
The scary bit is then I'll have to go back to work!
I hadn't seen the motional EMP theory but I'll be sure to check it out.
The be here now stuff was very good, I don't go on LT no more but have you posted that on here yet?
Reading......writing.....It's all good, people can choose what they want or don't want to read, so I wouldn't worry about it.
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Re: A Complete Theory – Genealogy and Reincarnation
when you mean complete, you sure mean complete!
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