Hurley's Ignorance: A Defence

Dude, the fact that you are your own prosecutor AND defence is great, the ego as purveyor of the facts and the alter ego as the sceptic. It's a very good discipline AC and is great to read.

I really like the idea of Hurley being confronted twice and that I never noticed it in that context before, plus linking it to the photo of him with no-Dave makes a lot of sense.

I like to believe the writers always had it in mind from the start, especially with the numbers being so apophenically related to the whole story somehow, but then as I read your post, i was thrown into doubt, then back out of doubt! Great stuff mate!

Yeah I like it. So in that theory you raised an idea that i'd never thought of then you dismissed it, so now 'Everything is in its right place'. Almost like a waste of time, But not. An enjoyable read Angelo.

+1. (Remember the old days)

AC Once again proving why I followed you to this site!!!
I only wish I had the memory you do for what has happend in every episode

Good points AC.
Either suppression or suppression combined with a not-to-discriminating intellect. He, as a character, might find it hard to see the subtle difference between bad things happening to him and bad things happening to those around him. I would think that he would lump all of these things into the catch-all of "bad luck"

But, to play devil's advocate. He was falsely arrested, HIS chicken shack was destroyed, Starla left him for his friend Johnny, he had a number of bad things happen to him that almost kept him from reaching the airport for his flight into hell. So bad things did happen to him, not just to those around him.

The other Losties would most likely have not made any connections to the numbers since they encountered them BEFORE they knew that they may have any significance and in smaller doses. Hurley, on the other hand, got all of the numbers all in one shot, all together so he should have recognized them as they randomly popped up in his life (i.e. flight #815)

Hurley, however, would be the kind to lump ALL of the bad luck into one catagory so I think your tack on this is the correct one.

Angelocomet, they should include your episode and other analyses as little booklets in Lost dvd box sets, lol.

I've always wondered whether the writers knew what they were doing, especially with the numbers, from the start. Then I read a few articles which convinced me that they didn't. So I believe that the error you are pointing to was indeed an error, and they probably thought they could get away with it using the same excuses you propose.

Here are 2 related extracts from an interview the writers had with Stephen King :


'Stephen King: How much did you know when you started?

J.J. Abrams: I was going to ask you that about The Dark Tower.

King: Not a whole lot.

Abrams: We didn't have much time to know anything, because it began the way it will end, which is...

Damon Lindelof: In chaos. [Laughter]

Abrams: Well, no — as commerce. It was a network saying, ''We want a show about people who survive a plane crash, and we want the final product in 12 weeks.'' Damon and I, who had never met until ABC brought us together, began writing an outline. After five days, there was one. They greenlit it, and we started writing scenes just to cast the thing. We would meet actors. We would write characters based on the actors, and it went from there. During the period of preproduction, production, and postproduction, we worked on a bible of the series. Ideas have fallen by the wayside or haven't happened; some ideas actually have. But for the most part, it was a leap of faith. It was beginning something that had a lot of big ideas, and believing in an ending.

King: That's the way I work. I just start writing a story. It doesn't make any f---ing sense to me.

Abrams: I'm so happy to hear you say that! A leap of faith — that, to me, is the essence of the show. Just embrace the absolutely over-the-top absurd nature of the story. Because when that kind of story is told with respect for the characters, the story, and the audience, you'll buy into it. That's my favorite thing about your work. You could argue that it's pulp stuff, but told with conviction. '

'Lindelof: My father was into the Illuminati and the number 23, so he was a big reader of Robert Anton Wilson. So there was some intentionality behind it, but we had no idea, no grand design behind the Numbers. But suddenly, the No. 1 question stopped being ''What is the Monster?'' and went to being 'What do the Numbers mean?'' This isn't to say that the Numbers don't mean anything. We just had no idea it had this potential to get totally out of control. '

This is all I have to say AC! My time is now 9:27am May 25,2008,but as you have a head start on this :
I didn't want to be late in wishing you this.

What does the button on the far right do?

What button?

Awsome as always!

AC we've argued this many times and I think you give the writers a get out of jail card with this so well done. I don't think they thought ok Hurley would have to supress this otherwise he'd be catatonic, but it does just about work so I'm gonna leave it.

I just always thought he'd kept it to himself until then. Hurley is a manly man, barring his size. Carrying a heavy burden and therefore fragile in many cases, but he kicks ass at sports.... I dunno... I don't think he needs such a defense. Though it was an enjoyable read anyway.