The Implant Rant

And here I thought you were upset about my avatar or something.

AC....a fair complaint & well-written as always....assuming we accept & believe in the rest of the logic that has been thrown at us every time the writers hit a wall. For Christ's sake we watched a island disapear b/c Ben turned a donkey wheel.

Bottom line: You nailed it.
Beneath the bottom line in small print: No refunds of exhanges.

This would actually make a fun thread......things the writers expected us to accept that WAY exceed the basic boundaries of television fiction.

P.S....I am more a fan of your Issabell (sp?) rant b/c it was just insulting. They played us on that by making her so powerful one second to secure our investment in the character and then flop the story & chalk her death up to the tent bombings. Cheap...and not in a good way. LOL

Always good AC. I still don't trust Juliet though. I was never impressed with the whole inplant thing anyways but had forgotten about it.

Good AC, when I started reading this I had no problem with the implant. But you changed my opinion. Good work!

I never really thought abouth the implant in such depth, i am now though

Very cool stuff.

I had forgotten all about that until my wife brought it up after Jacks backwoods appendectomy by Juliet. She still thinks Juliet put an implant in Jack at that time. Maybe like a tracking device.

I’m not convinced of that though. After seeing those sat-phones, I guess it could be possible to have a tiny GPS tracker in Jack that Juliet could zero in one using the Dharma-puters she has been around while hanging out with Ben. But I still think that was just a scene to show us the island let Jack get sick, and Juliet was giving up on gettin’ with Jack.I guess the implant is like Juliet’s branding by the disappearing Isabel. Something that sounded cool at the time, but got dropped after a writers meeting where they realized how silly that direction was heading.

I tend to agree with Raven om this implant question!

Rave, Stitch - come off it!

There is NO WAY that the writers considered the idea of Claire being implanted with anything when they had her kidnapped in Season One. They made it up afterwards to solve a writing problem.

Absolutely agree AC. When I heard the word "implant" on the episode I almost physically groaned it was so lame. A bit of deux ex machina if you ask me (the term, not the episode title)

If they had slipped in a line like "Juliet, did you take care of Claire?" "Yes, I slipped it in her food, nobody noticed..." something implying that Juliet slipped Claire some kind of chemical poison that wasn't really serious but gave scary symptoms, that would have been much more acceptable.

The idea of an implant and even the Others having such an implant is almost insulting. Why would somebody invent an implant that got someone sick when triggered? And why didn't everybody captured or attacked by the Others have one implanted?

MyStarbuckHatesLost wrote: Why would somebody invent an implant that got someone sick when triggered?

That deserves to be paired up with a family guy flashback its what I was thinking when I read it.

And Raven when you say the time scale between Claires implantion and the activation was only 26 days on island, it was actually a few seasons in real time. The writers write all of Bens actions they would have had to plan seasons ahead. Thats a long time to plan ahead.

But its just a fun little rant it doesn't matters who's wrong or right because we'll never hear of it on lost again.

And also Hi Angelo, I haven't seen you in about a week. Been on holiday?

I am aware that the implant was not revealed for seasons, but in terms of believability you have to consider it from the character's time perspective instead of our real world.

I just don't think that it was offensive to our sensibilities to put a twist into the show. It's Lost...this happens almost every single episode.

If you want to think about something that definitely wasn't planned in advance think about Ben. Darlton have said that he wasn't even supposed to be a reoccurring character! Imagine how his entire storyline (with Widmore, Alex, Juliet, Locke, EVERYTHING!) was not in the original outline of the show. That will make you wonder if the writers are just making things up as they go.

No, Micheal Emerson was not supposed to be in the show. There was going to be a different actor to play Ben as the leader of the others. But Micheal Emerson was so good that they tweaked the story so that he could stay and become the leader of the others.

But I agree with you on the twist thing Raven. I think a real twist would be if there wasn't a twist at the end. That would be a shock.

I was under the impression that the character of Ben was entirely fabricated (storyline and all) after Michael Emerson joined. I can't find anywhere online where they discuss him replacing anyone.

Rave, I doubt you'll find anywhere that discusses the idea that Henry Gale (as we knew him) was ever going to be 'Ben'. As we know, as THS points out, Emerson did such a good job they kept him on.

However, it's almost certain there was a Ben CHARACTER. A leader of The Others. Someone that was not Mr. Friendly. Someone that sent 'Henry Gale' to infiltrate the Oceanic camp.

(Given 'Henry Gale's' talk of "He" not being a forgiving person - we know now that he was talking of Jacob. However, at the time, did the writers have the idea of a semi-existent being in a cabin known as Jacob written down as a plan? I doubt it.)

And yeah, THS, I had a splendid holiday in scorching heat whilst the UK, I hear, has been rained on constantly. . .

Welcome back AC...Raven you make great points....but at the end of the day the writers grabbed straws IMHO!!!