Debate Club - Time for a Challenge

Ok now that we have all settled into our new home, its about time we get back down to some serious debating.

As the winner of the last debate I would like to issue the challenge for the next debate. Suggestions on the topic can be made here. We should perhaps have a little discussion as to rules and format as the site is very different from LT's.

MSHL I give you first refusal on the debate as it was looking likely it would be you bef0re the incident.


Lojozz

Ok Lojozz. Your majesty.

I think a good topic for the next debate would be - Smokey, man made or Natural. Or something along those lines.

Im not saying I want to be in it or anything. But I think that would be a good topic.

Hey stickman I think there is mileage in a smokey debate and will bear it in mind, though I don't know which side i would prefer to argue which is not usually a good sign for me.

BTW I didn't type king i put an emoticon there and it changed to text for some reason!

Sure you didnt. That was nothing about you wanting to show off your title.

Whats the good of a title if you can't use it!

who`s in the coffin??? that would get a lot of emotinal reaponces!lol.

VD the first rule of debate club is......No debates about who's in the coffin!!!!

and the second rule oh no debates about the coffin,lol. Ok i agree.

This could be very interesting!!

I never saw this on LT so i'll let you decide the format and rules of debate, but perhaps you could add a poll for people to vote which argument they prefer?

Once you have agreed on the format etc, make a seperate post with the details and i'll sticky it (keep it at top) for you

Thanks Jax, i'll give it a day or two to get some suggestions in and then we can get on. I think setting up a poll for voting is the best way to go.

I dont know how you did it before. But I know it can be done. Lojozz can you get the rules from Lt.com and post them on here. Maybe even get SunnyP to sticky them at the top.

Cheers

P.S. the poll thing is a really good idea.

Make this happen. If you wanna bounce ideas off me about how to go about this, LJ, then you know where I am. Otherwise, just make it happen.

P.S. Have you got Mario Kart Wii yet?

hi all

lets debate about the show is gonna give us time travellin if so then im not gonna bee a happy camper

AngeloComet wrote:P.S. Have you got Mario Kart Wii yet?

Couldn't help but intercept here lol...I got MK Wii the day it came out since I uhh, had it on reserve for 4 months prior...lol

PS3 vs wii???

Haha I would take the Wii side, hands down. The people at Nintendo are geniuses lol

OK Rules:
1. Each debater gets 1000 words to lay out their argument.
2. Both Sides of the debate should be posted as close as possible to each other. The time for posting to be decided between the two. Perhaps we could PM them both to SBP and she could post them on one poll thread.
3. Once the initial arguments are posted there will be 48 hours for debate and voting
4. After 48 hours the winner will be decided.
5. Obviously one vote per person

Did I miss anything? I'm sure there were more rules than that.

SBP can you do a poll with multiple options? If so we could put up a list of possible debates and have a vote to see which gets done?

AC no not yet still frustrated at lack of MK action!!!

vincentthedog wrote:PS3 vs wii???

I have both so no need to debate that one

Ok Vincent first of all it would be 360 vs Wii and secondly the wii would completley win. It would be a walkover.

TheHolyStickman wrote:Ok Vincent first of all it would be 360 vs Wii and secondly the wii would completley win. It would be a walkover.

Haha agreed. I also own the 360, but not a PS3. No point to owning a PS3. Especially at it's price!

yea! debate club is back, Lojozz, I like the ide of PM-ing the arguments to SP so they could be in the same posting. That way all of the questions, answers and arguments are in the same place and members won't have to bounce back and forth between different posts.

A few topics I came up with that I think I posted on LT:

Charles Widmore, not Ben Linus, actually staged the flight 815 wreckage?

Can the island mysteries be explained scientifically?

Is the interconnectedness of the Lost characters one created by the island or not?

or,

Is Ben actually a "good guy" or not

Is "flash-foward, messed up Jack" the real Jack. i.e. is the alcoholic Jack that we have seen really what Jack is or is that what he would have become anyway even without his encounter with the island. Was it his destiny to self destruct or did his island experiences cause it...I think it was his real destiny.

And, of course, will Lojozz put ME in the coffin for posting another coffin theory last night.

Here are my two cents:

I like MSHL's idea of whether the island orchestrated the connections of the characters, or was it just a coincidence

and

Is the smoke a natural phenomenon or a man-made one

I happen to know Lozz is extremely keen on arguing the Spiritual vs Scientific aspects of the Island, and Lost.

Heh.

But back on Planet Serious, I think I'd really like to see a good meaty debate on the Interconnectedness idea. Namely:

Were the related, and historically linked, passengers of Oceanic 815 on the plane by random coincidence, or intentional design?

(The argument would have to be careful to keep to the "related" and "linked" elements though, because it could very easily become all about whether the crash of Oceanic 815 was intended or not - a subject which this topic is clearly, ah, related!

Some good ideas coming out. Personally I like the idea of debating whether Jack would have become beardy, mostly because I already wrote a theory on this called 'The crash mearly delayed Jack's beard' (or something like that) sadly though we both seem to like the same side.

Interconnectedness - man thats gonna be tough in 1000 words.

Ben or Widmore planting the plane - I don't know if there is enough meat in that one.

Is Ben actually a good guy might be quite good fun.

A few ideas from me:
Did Des kill Charlie?
Did Ben manipulate Jack into calling the freighter?
Who was the otehr person Sun said was responsible for Jins death? (Just trying to head this of before it replaces the coffin as the most annoying theory ever)

Lojozz - you are hilarious.